Hosting the Stranger, Week 13

Noam Chomsky

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[RainFall2112]

Split hairs much?

[LiquidYogi]

@borjon23 I don't know...it tracks with me that if you bomb an populace that there is chaos and general destruction. There is then the ability for some to take advantage of that or to try and crush it. You can look it up if you want to but most everything that Milosevich was charged with happened after the bombing occurred. You can then come to the conclusion that the bombing did nothing to help. And then you could look at historical examples that bombing never helps.

[wda013]

@wda013

"Hosting the Stranger: Hospitality and Hostility in World Politics" 2009-04-22 -- frontrow(dot)bc(dot)edu/progra­m/chomsky2

[wda013]

thanks for this veryinteresting upload.

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[borjon23]

@FromAtomsMade

No, I'm not ignorant of it; I said nothing to the contrary. Your comprehension is too poor for me to bother with a conversation, I'm sorry.

[FromAtomsMade]

@borjon23 How many times were you dropped on your head by your mother? The KLA is perfectly germaine to the conflict because their attacks on Serbs escalated the violence. Both sides were guilty of war crimes, a point of which you seem blissfully ignorant. The indictment of Milosevic at the Hague was only for the crimes undertaken after the Nato bombing commenced . If the US truly cared about human rights, it would not have backed Indonesia's genocide in East Timor at the same time as this event

[borjon23]

@FromAtomsMade

I wasn't referring to the KLA but to the civilian population. You don't seem to understand the point about the bombing and I don't have the time to repeat it.

[FromAtomsMade]

@borjon23: Foolish is the man who thinks the KLA was an innocent party. They were culpable for large scale violence for which it was listed by the US as a terror group till 1998. Both sides were guilty of war crimes. To try to whitewash the sanguinary history of the KLA is pure anti-Serbian propaganda. The atrocities for which Nato supposedly intervened began AFTER the bombing. Don't confuse cause and effect. The US at the same time was aiding the genocide in East Timor. How very humanitarian.

[borjon23]

@FromAtomsMade

I accept that Serbian militias may have increased attacks out of anger engendered by the bombings, but does that morally exculpate them from committing unspeakable acts against innocent civilians? Again, that my boss has does something unjust to me does not *force* me to come home and beat my wife and it certainly doesn't make him responsible for that action.

[borjon23]

@FromAtomsMade

And in not enjoying being bombed, they were forced by NATO to escalate their atrocities? The Serbian militias initially engaged in smaller scale rape, murder and expulsions had no choice but to increase them in response to an attack by a third party? Sounds like the logic of wife batterer who's returned from a hard day at work.

[FromAtomsMade]

@borjon23 Your command of history is punctured with holes so large through which one could drive a coach and three horses. Chomsky has always condemned the Khmer Rouge. It is the US which supported Pol Pot by opposing the Vietnamese intervention that stopped his genocide as "illegal" and encouraging China to invade Vietnam and Thailand to host the Khmer Rouge. Chomsky is correct about Serbia too: Nato's bombing escalated the atrocities. Why? Because Serbs don't enjoy being incinerated. Who knew?