The Power of Choice - Milton Friedman

If communists want to control land for the benefit of the common man, they have the right to do with their land whatever they chose to, just like capitalists. If they purchase the land that's fine. If they acquire land by violence or threat of violence, it's theft.

Taking another person's property by force IS the very definition of theft. If you don't think so, PM me your home address so I can expropriate your property, which you obviously believe you have no real right to own privately.

We must remember that all people are basically good and generous, and WANT to give their excess personal property for the use of others that do not have as much, even if they re "less able" to accumulate property for themselves. Personal property be damned!

The knowledge that a doctor's or engineer's years of training and experience has been a benefit to hundreds or thousands of others should be compensation enough for their work. Material possessions will never be as effective a motivator.

material pssessions are enough for any doctor, or any professional. No one can own property.

You are assuming that doctors etc only help others if the reward is significant enough, but many also do bourgeois charity work for free.

Communism is all about property, abolition of "private" property. When it's abolished then you take away the means of subjugation and exploition. Thats why the cappies fight so hard to retain it

A person's own material posessions ARE private property. A person's body and the labor that comes from it are private property. Would you abolish that?

Doctors do charity work for free if the reward is significant enough. Noone does anything without benefit to themselves.

Do you mean real estate? It can in fact be owned. Communists want to control the property of others because they envy it.

That's because they're not willing to work for it and be happy with what their labor affords them.

theres a distinction between 1.personal property and 2.private property.

Personal propert can be owned, tvs etc all that crap you lov in the U$A.

However, property, real estate, free-hold land cannot be owned, because it's the Democratic Dictatorship of the Proletariat take control of all of it on "behalf of society". Why? To end capitalist exploitation. To prevent one small calss, a minority, from exploiting the majority.

You make absurd generalizations in realtion to human nature

Land can not be owned?
FALSE. This is your first delusion. Land has been owned as property for thousands of years.

If "the Democratic Dictatorship of the Proletariat" takes control of all of it on "behalf of society", this is exactly the definition of one small class (DDotP) exploiting the majority (people who want to own land).

My generalizations are based on observation and on history. Any time a man owns more than his neighbor, the neighbor is envious.

I guess I would have no problem with communism, except for the fact that communists refuse to pay for the things they want control over.

Seriously, do communists just expect people to hand their land over to the state? Or do communists take it by force? OR... do you think all workers will unite in spontaneous brotherhood to overrun the evil capitalists?

"envious"? you have a Hobbsian view of human nature?

The communists take control of the bourgeois state by violent revolution.

Of course the ruling class will not "hand over" the property. That's why it's done by force.

The ruling class never had a right to control that property in the first place, as a small minority, they used it to exploit a large property-less"majority"

the Proletariat do not own all land & industry. Instead, they take control of it on "behalf of society"

Human beings want what they do not have. Case in point, communists want control over land and industry on "behalf of society". They are obviously envious of that control that they do not have.

Rather than gain that control legitimately by purchasing it, they take it through "revolution". Communism is based on theft.

So this taking of land... is it limited to that of the capitalist government and/or businesses in power, or does it also extend down to taking land owned by private people?

Communism is not theft.

Revolutions are by their nature unlawful, as against the lawful pre-existing regime. But in this case it's justified.

The ruling class protect the interests of the capitalist exploiters. The capitalists need private property and private industry to exploit workers. The capitalists are a minority.

The Communists are expropriating the capitalists, ie taking back what is theirs and everyones, and no ones in particular