Does an old-Earth view contradict scripture?

Dr. Dave Rogstad takes a question at an appearance in Jacksonville, Florida.

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[angryspidertv]

@LordSauceness You are obviously one of those people who doesn't listen no matter what somebody says to them. I told you, everybody, EVERYBODY makes mistakes, all humans are blemished, all are sinners. The Bible nowhere promotes any sort of racism and forced slavery. "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 21:16) Obviously the southerners did not do Bible studies. The north won because God was on their side.

[angryspidertv]

@LordSauceness So you are obstinate, admit it. You didn't even listen to what I said about that stuff. Don't tell me the north didn't use the Bible to justify their claims as well. There's something called voluntary slavery in the Bible that poor people would sell themselves into slavery. God makes it clear every human is equal, nobody's better than anybody else. The southerners were a bunch of people trying to justify their claims by pointing out only a few obviously misunderstood verses.

[LordSauceness]

@angryspidertv I don't need a bible lesson from you with your private interpretation, thank you very much. It matters not to me what YOU think those verses mean. It is a historical fact, that MANY bible-believing, born-again Christians, used those verses to justify their enslavement of black Africans.

How you or any other Christian today wants to spin it, you cannot change what history has done.  ...Thanx for proving my points for me:

Christians will spin verses to fit the modern facts!

[angryspidertv]

@LordSauceness 2. .CONT..certainly Noah was speaking prophetically here. God would use this occasion to show the natural consequences of Canaan's sinful disposition. This statement should be seen as prophetic rather than proclaiming of a curse upon Canaan. interesting that at least one commentator states that the original Hebrew is better translated "cursed is Canaan" instead of "cursed be Canaan." This would suggest a statement of current fact, rather than a wish.

[angryspidertv]

@LordSauceness a. A curse upon a race reflects the general disposition of that people and does not condemn all in that race.

b. Among the Canaanites we find Rahab, who believed God and turned to Him. There was certainly other individuals who made a choice to serve God. Those who chose wickedness did so of their own volition... CONT (1)

[LordSauceness]

@angryspidertv btw...Ham was the father of Canaan & also Cush ( Kush-which means black) The 3 branches of homo sapien races have long been considered to have descended from Noah's 3 sons. I've heard this & read it many times back in my fundy days. I'll bet they ain't broadcasting that too much these days tho...lol...the ever changing evidence of bible -believing Christians!

>fyi....I've spent many long hours in bible study. It's highly un-likey you'll present a view I've not looked at.

[LordSauceness]

@angryspidertv *Hah, you're telling ME to do some research?*

Genesis 9:24,25> "24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. 25 And he said , Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren"

It's long been considered that Ham was the father of the black race. The 'curse of Ham' was the justification for white slave traders to capture Africans & sell them. Indeed they did profit from them.

Yep, you need to dig a bit deeper!

[angryspidertv]

@LordSauceness Hah, you're telling ME to do some research? The south wanted slaves because they made profit of it, not because the Bible said it was okay. Point to a single verse in the Bible that indicates slavery was racial. The southerners believed they were better than colored people. No hint in the Bible of this. In fact most people knew slavery (the way it was being practiced) was a form of evil. So no, it was not justified by the Bible.

[LordSauceness]

@angryspidertv *For your information, the anti-slave side of the civil war was made up of bible believers as well*

Indeed.... I've forgotten so much of what I've read about born-again Christian brothers killing each other in the civil war. If ever there was testament as to why Christianity is such a perverse religion, the Civil War just has to be the answer. People in the south justified their ownership of slaves based on the bible and the sons of Noah. Do some research and learn.

[angryspidertv]

@LordSauceness In ancient Israel, people who could not provide for themselves or their families sold themselves into slavery so they would not die of starvation or exposure. In this way, a person would receive food and housing in exchange for labor.You are so wrong, you can't even get your facts right about the ancient concept of slavery. For your information, the anti-slave side of the civil war was made up of bible believers as well. And the spiritually aware humans appeared 50,000 years ago.