Hitchens vs. Hitchens (5 of 14)

Brothers Christopher and Peter Hitchens debate the Iraq War and religion at an event organized by the Hauenstein Center for Presidential Studies with the support of the Center for Inquiry and the Interfaith Dialogue Association.

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[Anytime99]

It's so sad that there is so much ignorance in EVERY religious/non-religious video on youtube! I wish people would just disable the comments so we don't have to read this drivel.

[kauigirl808]

Science is based on facts!! Religion is based on beliefs!!! This debate is dumb!! You canNOT prove their is a god nor can you any more disprove that their is!!!

[ThePhantom135]

Hitchens wiped the floor with Hitchens.

[FaithfulWords]

What translation did you get that from? It looks like king James. Here it is in a more precise translation.

Job 38:24

New American Standard Bible (NASB)

24 “Where is the way that the light is divided,

Or the east wind scattered on the earth?

It is talking about two separate questions, not anything about light causing wind.

[FaithfulWords]

The bible also talks about talking snakes, and an ark that housed more than 8.5 million species with enough food to last a year. When so much of it is contradictory and wrong, you cannot ignore that and point to a part of the bible that is interpreted differently now than it was when it was written.

[FaithfulWords]

A circle is different than spherical. Isn't that the passage where people got the term flat earth?

[FaithfulWords]

Are you ignoring the fact that Christians once believed that the earth and the moon were perfectly spherical, or that the earth was the center of the universe? Just because a simple passage hints something like the sea having a bottom on no way says that a omnipotent, omnipresent being exist. Notice how you said most ancient culture, were the non christian cultures that believed the sea had a bottom to it divinely inspired as well?

[Daniel Brooks]

Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?

We didn’t “walk in search of the depth [of the sea]“, I.E., the deepest part of the ocean until last century. Simply the fact that in most ancient cultures, the ocean HAD no bottom! The Greek word abyss, used for the deep ocean, literally means “bottomless”! And 3500 years ago, only God could have known with such certainty that the ocean did in fact have a “depth”!!

[Daniel Brooks]

The earliest secular reference to a spherical Earth is made by Pythagoreas in 570 BC! A few extremely vague hints at it were made previous to that, but nothing that could have inspired the author of Job. But the “God” who asked these questions of Job knew that the Earth was spherical, because…

Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, …

Isaiah was written about 800 BC!!!!!!!

[Daniel Brooks]

We know this! God knew this! But NO ONE ELSE COULD HAVE KNOWN THAT LIGHT CAUSES WIND! No one in the entire planet suspected a connection between light and wind until around 500 years ago! Until then no one really had the faintest clue how light really worked! Only God could have inspired that section of Job, probably written thirty-five CENTURIES ago!!

[Daniel Brooks]

Now we, today, can answer that question. Job could not. The light causes the east wind to blow because the dawn heats the air that has been cooled all night. As the air cooled, it had contracted until it basically reached an equilibrium. Then when dawn creeps towards the horizon it begins to heat the air nearby, and as this air is heated it expands, causing a higher pressure than the still-cool air of the night, which makes the east wind “blow”.

[Daniel Brooks]

Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?In the book of Job, Job is asked by a person calling himself God, a list of questions intended to show him how small Job really was in comparison with the universe around him. This particular question demands of Job how the light was parted (by day into night) and how that light makes the east wind blow.