Happy High Taxes

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[pennsays]

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[lightningjohnny77]

Any time you make a moral judgment you have a moral issue.

[masonkiller666]

@chefextra I get fired up about ANY federal taxation.

[bryonlape]

Taxes are not the problem, spending now what people will make 50 years from now is.

[trojo90]

this guy is such a fucking hypocrite.... its ridiculous... he voted for obama... we all know that what the fuck is he talking about... "Oh i do have liberal friends out there" lmao ALL YOUR FRIENDS ARE PREDOMINATELY LIB'S JACKASS...instead of raising tax's why dont you just give all your money away...its more effective.. if they tax us then they take that money and shuffle it around and give it to other countries....FUCK YOU FAGGETS! I HOPE YOU CHOKE ON OBAMAS DICK, CUM CUZZLING PONY TAIL BITCH

[karn33333]

@rmcdaniel423 no to disagree with you is to not be a fucking moron. just saying there are options doesnt mean there are option. just saying something doesn't make it so. and sorry but raising sales tax doesn't mean its completely voluntary. people need resources in order to survive. putting on higher sales tax doesn't mean its completely voluntary. like I said before there is a huge difference between options and real options. you haven't offered any real options different from what I said.

[karn33333]

@rmcdaniel423 saying things like well we will just pray for money and god will give it to us, is also pure fantasy, and not a real option. ONCE AGAIN YOU HAVE COMPLETELY FAIL IN GIVING ANY REAL "OPTION" TO RAISING TAXES. ALL YOU HAVE SUGGESTED IS RAISING ..... TAXES!!! all you did was assume I meant one kind of tax and suggested raising a DIFFERENT TAX! I DON'T HAVE TO DO MATH YOU DUMB FUCK RETARD. IT DOESN'T MATTER ITS STILL RAISING TAXES. WHAT PART OF THAT ARE YOU TOO STUPID TO GET???

[karn33333]

@rmcdaniel423 I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE ONLY THING WE CAN EVER DO IS RAISE TAXES. the simple fact that its been god only knows how many replies to you I have made to get this concept into your empty fucking head goes to show how retarded you are. you still haven't answered reigned in what? saying things like reigning things in and then actually expecting simply saying something as ambiguous as that would actually be an alternative or an answer to anything is pure fantasy.

[karn33333]

@rmcdaniel423 yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah more and more bullshit. things are always changing. for instance universal health care. laws can be changed but they have to be reviewed, ratified and passed. most people want things to change but we have to make sure things are changing for the better not just changing things for the sake of changing them. im sorry but if by this point you still can't grasp the concept of at this time under these circumstances then you are just plain fucking stupid.

[rmcdaniel423]

@karn33333 And by the way, back to my much earlier comment about states that have slightly higher sales tax, but no income tax. . . do a little math you arrogant prick. (deliberate ad hom) To raise taxes by 2-3% on purely voluntary purchases, while simultaneously eliminating mandatory tax on ALL INCOME yields a net DECREASE in taxes. Despite my facetious concession speech, I still hold that options always remain, whether we pursue them or not. To disagree is to be a willing slave.

[rmcdaniel423]

@karn33333 So be it. I will resign in utter defeat. Our system of governance sucks. Our economy sucks. We have been put into a position that is hopeless and unchangeable. We are powerless to have any effect, and it appears we don't want to change anyway, so it's a moot point. Options do not exist. Laws cannot be changed. Constitutions cannot be amended. Sensibility cannot return. Congress has done nothing that needs to be "reigned in". To even think so is pure fantasy.

[karn33333]

@rm "reigning in things" isn't an option. it isn't an argument it is an ambiguous statement that could mean anything. "reigning in things" doesn't change the fact that right now we are in debt, and right now we don't have money to pay for things. on top of that reign in what things? under all circumstances? no I never said it was under all circumstances I said under the given circumstances. you can play fantasy all day long if you want. but at the end of the day you need to get back to reality.

[karn33333]

@rm now you are trying to confuse the issue of democracy which is a system of government with capitalism which system of economics and has nothing to do with democracy. you haven't made a point you have only made an assertion and you haven't provided any real options or "choices" which can realistically be implemented. oh I take that back you did say we could raise sales tax instead of oh wait again THAT'S STILL RAISING TAXES! lmao really are you this bad at logic or are you just messin with me?