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What does that have to do with the gospel or any essential element of the Christian faith? Nothing. What you've told us is only that anyone without perfect theology is a heretic. Therefore, we're all heretics in our own ways. I don't think that's what HisFatherlyHand was referring to.
1 John 2:2 In context in 1 John1:7 Paul tells us that if we walk in the light, the blood of Jesus cleans US of all of OUR sins (atonement for the elect). Then in 2:2 he says, for our sins and for the whole world. "for our sins" That is for the immediate community that which John is writing to. "whole world" are all of God's people of all nations, all tongues, at all times, everywhere, in the whole world. That is the context! If not, we are saying that all go to heaven. Hitler and all. Blasphamy!
Piper empashized the importance that there is nothing good within us and that we in ourselves cannot be saved but it is He who calls us (Before we were born and all that) and I agree! Where I get lost is "Who all God choose". I have Calvinist friends who reference Roman 9 "God will choose whom he chooses" and that's THAT. I have a hard time swallowing that those who God choose will be saved and the rest are just fodder for the emminent flames of hell...
@benjaminburgess07: that is hard to swallow at first... but think about it a second. We do not deserve the breath that God gives us.. we are sinners and our flesh produces nothing that is good. We deserve hell, each and every one of us, but God, through his mercy and grace, saves the ones in which He chooses. That is love to me, and the most beautiful love. Also remember that this is an "in-house debate" and not essential knowledge for salvation.
Indeed. Calvinism vs Arminianism is not "level 2" of Christianity. Our purpose I believe is essentially sharing the gospel. I'm coming better @ understanding Calvinists and here is my stance. As long as the "Predestination" views do NOT hinder one from sharing the gospel then I have no problem with it. It never has or will be out position to determine who makes it to heaven, for we only have our finite human perspective. The work of calling Belongs to God and God alone and I trust in his wisdom.
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Romans 9 is not the only place where God's unconditional election is clear... John 1:11-13, John 6, John 17, Ephesians 1...