I believe in Jesus, and that there is a God, I wouldn't call that the same as believing in religion. As for Noah, I don't really care whether it is a teaching story or a real one, or something more limited like what Robert Ballard proposes. It is interesting that so many cultures have a similar story. I do have to say one thing, an ark is not a boat or a ship. Boats and ships move you somewhere by sails, motors, oars or whatever. An ark is more like a barge, not intended to move on its own.
@lanastompanato But do you BELIEVE in religion? You keep evading that question because you are ashamed. To believe that anyone could construct a boat enough to contain even a bunch of desert-dwellers' ideas of biological diversity of species is silly.
He certainly is powerful enough to do that, maybe you would choose to do it that way, but he didn't. Your way, Noah doesn't get tested by persevering through the taunts of his neighbors as he labors to build an ark. The whole story of Noah is a morality lesson for us. Maybe it is only a story, maybe it happened on a more localized basis, or maybe it happened just like many believe. Whichever, it is a great teaching story for Noah enduring & persevering in the face of resistance or peer pressure
@lanastompanato All right, the STORY is inviolate, but my analysis of this story and all the Bible, all the religions, all the belief in God also stays for all time: this is NONSENSE! Don't believe it! A God powerful enough to "magically" bring all species to Noah, even those found only in distant continents, would have been powerful enough to stick all animals in a trans-dimensional foot-locker for the duration of his sick Flooding of humans...
@Dracopol "You keep invoking the supernatural every time ..."
It is a supernatural story. God caused the animals to come to Noah, Noah didn't chase them down. That is a supernatural event and is what the story says happened. You can disbelieve the story, but don't alter what the story says happened.
@lanastompanato There is NO WAY Australia was joined to anything else at ANY TIME humans have existed in the last 5 million years! In fact it was FURTHER AWAY from other things, being further south, and colder, in the past. It's slowly moving North now. Therefore the animals could not have hopped, crawled, or even flown off. You keep invoking the supernatural every time your bizarre insane ideas don't fit the facts.
@Dracopol "Australia is a continent isolated from OTHER areas. "
It is right now. Do you know that science tells us that wasn't always the case? Our assumptions about what was where and when it was there do not take into account supernatural floods. The events described in the Noah account are clearly shown to be supernatural. That changes everything.
@lanastompanato Australia is a continent isolated from OTHER areas. There is no way land-animals can swim to somewhere else, and the animals EVOLVED into new forms not found anywhere else. And we DO have a good idea what the Earth looked like at all previous ages. The rocks left clues, and magnetic fields (which have varied) were stored in the rocks when they formed. You are INSANE if you think the world was one continent at the time humans lived on it. Trying to fit facts to religion.
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silvapride 1 week ago
Christians are fucking idiots, the end. How can you defend this crap? You can't, so just continue to hide from commenting on vies
silvapride 1 week ago
I believe in Jesus, and that there is a God, I wouldn't call that the same as believing in religion. As for Noah, I don't really care whether it is a teaching story or a real one, or something more limited like what Robert Ballard proposes. It is interesting that so many cultures have a similar story. I do have to say one thing, an ark is not a boat or a ship. Boats and ships move you somewhere by sails, motors, oars or whatever. An ark is more like a barge, not intended to move on its own.
lanastompanato 4 months ago
@lanastompanato But do you BELIEVE in religion? You keep evading that question because you are ashamed. To believe that anyone could construct a boat enough to contain even a bunch of desert-dwellers' ideas of biological diversity of species is silly.
Dracopol 4 months ago
He certainly is powerful enough to do that, maybe you would choose to do it that way, but he didn't. Your way, Noah doesn't get tested by persevering through the taunts of his neighbors as he labors to build an ark. The whole story of Noah is a morality lesson for us. Maybe it is only a story, maybe it happened on a more localized basis, or maybe it happened just like many believe. Whichever, it is a great teaching story for Noah enduring & persevering in the face of resistance or peer pressure
lanastompanato 4 months ago
@lanastompanato All right, the STORY is inviolate, but my analysis of this story and all the Bible, all the religions, all the belief in God also stays for all time: this is NONSENSE! Don't believe it! A God powerful enough to "magically" bring all species to Noah, even those found only in distant continents, would have been powerful enough to stick all animals in a trans-dimensional foot-locker for the duration of his sick Flooding of humans...
Dracopol 4 months ago
@Dracopol "You keep invoking the supernatural every time ..."
It is a supernatural story. God caused the animals to come to Noah, Noah didn't chase them down. That is a supernatural event and is what the story says happened. You can disbelieve the story, but don't alter what the story says happened.
lanastompanato 4 months ago
@lanastompanato There is NO WAY Australia was joined to anything else at ANY TIME humans have existed in the last 5 million years! In fact it was FURTHER AWAY from other things, being further south, and colder, in the past. It's slowly moving North now. Therefore the animals could not have hopped, crawled, or even flown off. You keep invoking the supernatural every time your bizarre insane ideas don't fit the facts.
Dracopol 4 months ago
@Dracopol "Australia is a continent isolated from OTHER areas. "
It is right now. Do you know that science tells us that wasn't always the case? Our assumptions about what was where and when it was there do not take into account supernatural floods. The events described in the Noah account are clearly shown to be supernatural. That changes everything.
lanastompanato 4 months ago
@lanastompanato Australia is a continent isolated from OTHER areas. There is no way land-animals can swim to somewhere else, and the animals EVOLVED into new forms not found anywhere else. And we DO have a good idea what the Earth looked like at all previous ages. The rocks left clues, and magnetic fields (which have varied) were stored in the rocks when they formed. You are INSANE if you think the world was one continent at the time humans lived on it. Trying to fit facts to religion.
Dracopol 4 months ago