Anarchism and the Libertarian party

How the political philosophy of anarchism relates to the Libertarian party (US).

From the documentary "Anarchism in America" (1983) by Pacific Street Films.

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• politics
• anarchism
• anarchy
• libertarian-party

[Ril74]

Ha ha. I love how they openly co-opt a word they have no understanding of the history of.

[mikelunz]

I dont believe there is a such thing as a free market anymore, I dont even think we live in a capitalist country anymore either. The individuals are over regulated to the point where they cannot freely produce and sell without being dominated with tough licenses and taxes, yet major corporations are allowed to stronghold without regulation the individual, the the corps rule through the fist of government, where us individuals are regulated against doing so.

[ilkhanX]

A libertarian does not believe in the initiation of force.

They take that philosophy to its natural conclusion.

Government gets its power from the people.

People do not have the right to harm or steal from others.

Therefore the government does not have this power if so were did they come by it?

Giving government more power then the people who constitute it implies Government is God.

[perdondaris]

Anarchists are Reds (libertarian refers to a type of socialism). Socialists don't believe the government should do everything. Socialists believe that the working class should control the fruits of their labor, not speculators and capitalists who mismanage society into the ground by their greed. Laissez faire capitalists (hypocrites who run for political office as libertarians) want a society owned by rich people and organized by businessmen. Kind of like the antebellum South.

[idicula1979]

@00PBST00 Anarchist should all grow up an realize nowadays their needs to be a government when it comes to organizing a society.I don't know what you as an anarchist believe will happen to society with out government where I see a MadMax situation.Socialism on the other hand is a perfect form of government that can perfectly supplement both capitalism and a democracy if a capitalism and democracy is capable of a lenghtoftime,it will be because of socialism that restrains the extremes of the two.

[CloverfieldMonster95]

@00PBST00 you mean Libertarianism vs. Autoritarianism? Yeah freedom always wins.

[jtizz711]

Libertarianism would still allow a judiciary system. there's your difference

[HeavenlyLoving]

Anarchism is the belief that governments should not exist.

Some people who call themselves anarchists have specific ideas about *what else* ought to happen when there is no government -- some of these plans, ironically, would likely require government-type coercion in order to take effect! -- but what all anarchists have in common is a desire to get rid of government.

Some Libertarian Party members are anarchists, while others feel that limited government is the best way to safeguard liberty.

[agapeiron]

@yinzjagoffs And I did not merely say that, by your argument, that the classical anarchists would be in favor of state control. I also said that anarchists throughout history-- Whether the thousands of anarchists in Chicago, New York, Paris, Russia, Italy, Germany, China, Uruguay, Mexico, throughout rural and urban Spain (where it took form through the work of millions)-- All of these, by your definition, would not be anarchists.

When did the "true anarchists" begin? Murray Rothbard?

[agapeiron]

@yinzjagoffs Where does the right come from to claim a section of the earth as permanent private property-- to be bequeathed, or sold?

If you defend private property obtained through free trade, does that mean you would defend private property taken arbitrarily by force just because it passed through the hands of people with wealth who did not actually use force in obtaining it?

[yinzjagoffs]

@agapeiron I agree and understand. I'm also interested in the nature of Anarchism in matters such as personal relationships and child rearing. I have studied Proudhon, Bakunin Kropotkin and the workers movement and can understand the passion about what there is to be said about it all, but at the end of the day all the classical anarchist would be nothing but happy to usher in more state control .