Why does Everything exist?
Uploader Comments (iRibbit7)
Video Responses
All Comments (45)
-
Fundamentally, your problem is that you think it takes consciousness in order to create something.
-
To elaborate on my own understanding,
I say that awareness is sensory reactions and perception is a process of understanding sense data. Consciousness is awareness of perception and the perception of that awareness.
This I simplify into meta-awareness because 'sense data' equates to 'sensory reactions' over time and this means awareness is essential to perception.
One is conscious because awareness is perceived. How awareness is perceived is a function of memory and understanding.
-
@iRibbit7 Cool, I'd like to point out that I'm using my own understanding of consciousness, awareness, perception, and sensation.
Looking it up I see that there is hardly a consistent common usage.
The problem is of nested definitions and avoiding circular reasoning.
If consciousness evolves into awareness then whence comes consciousness?
-
When a particle's quantum information changes it is not remembered but lost, because that information defines the particle.
On the quantum scale a particle interaction changes the particle in such a fundamental way that the particle can no longer be considered the same.
One could say that particle interaction destroys the particles involved and creates new particles. From our perspective one could say merely the particle changes in some way but only unchanged information is preserved.
Uh... consciousness is in our brain. Temporary states like drugs and electrical stimulation literally alter consciousness, allowing one to become more or less aware. Also, amputees do not become less capable of being aware whereas those with brain damage can become drastically different.
Consciousness is mental but awareness is sensory. Without picking on semantics I would say that consciousness is meta-awareness i.e. awareness of having awareness.
unkledanbot 1 month ago 2
@unkledanbot Again we connect different meaning to the word "consciousness" and thus can't come to the same conclusion. Your understanding of "consciousness" is "my" understanding of "self-consciousness". When I say "consciousness" I mean the a-b-i-l-i-t-y of all matter and things including water, rocks, vegetation and living beings of being aware.
Awareness requires consciousness but no brain. Self-consciousness is mental, brain-dependant and what you mean by "awareness of having awareness".
iRibbit7 1 month ago 3
@iRibbit7 If consciousness is the ability of being aware then is one aware because one is conscious or is one conscious because one is aware?
Your definition presupposes that all matter is able to be aware because that is the definition of consciousness. This is a fallacy of circular reasoning.
If self-awareness is awareness of self as opposed to meta-awareness then consciousness is meta-awareness and self-consciousness is meta-awareness of self.
I dislike semantic arguments, but there it is.
unkledanbot 1 month ago 2
@unkledanbot Wait, this is less about semantic arguments but about the meaning assigned to words; after all it's not a topic well thought about in society, e.g the difference of consciousness and awareness. How would you call the ability...
1. of atoms to react with other atoms and build molecules?
2. of an ant to evade your finger?
3. of a flower to follow the sun?
4. of a dog to recognize its master?
5. the ability of a newborn to act/react?
6. to recognize oneself in the mirror?
7. to dream?
iRibbit7 1 month ago
@iRibbit7 Semantics is the study of meaning. When you say it is about meaning assigned to words you are saying it is about semantics. Perhaps therein lies the problem? Semantic problems are a topic well thought about in society throughout history, actually.
1 Molecular bonding i.e. covalent and ionic.
2 Awareness
3 Awareness
4 Memory
5 Instinct
6 Self-awareness
7 Unconscious imagination
2-7 are related to sensory perception but what makes you think atoms/particles are thus capable?
unkledanbot 1 month ago
@unkledanbot That makes sense and thanks for clarifying the first part...nothing added. I now see my uncommon understanding of consciousness since I see it as something else then awareness. I wrote this yesterday
1.consciousness
2.consciousness that evolved into awareness
3.consciousness->awareness
4.consciousness->awareness+memory
5.consciousness->awareness+memory
6.consciousness->awareness+memory->self-awareness
7.consciousness->unconscious (self-)awareness
I have to think about that... thanks
iRibbit7 1 month ago