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[mom2threebabes]

Boy people sure have a preconceived notion of what "Hell" means. I wonder if most people know that Hell means "The place of the dead". Assigning a punishment aspect to the word "Hell" is why people dreamed up Limbo. Heaven is the place of the living. Those being with God. Hell is the place of the dead, those being not with God.

Dante's levels of Hell would be a more accurate way to conceptualize Hell. Some will suffer for eternity, so not. All will be without God.

[MyBetty111]

So much better than the Novus Ordo "fast forward' quasi Baptism!!!!!!

[DreamsofMajesty]

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[iotaunam1]

@MrBronbron

Yes, unfortunately Modernism has infiltrated the Church as the Popes had warned would happen. Thus, most claiming to be Catholic today are ignorant of the Faith and think that dogmas can be changed. Fortunately, you are honest enough to accept a teaching of the Church once it is made known to you. Most people cling obstinately to their rejection of Catholic teaching, even when they are shown it, making them heretics unfortunately.

[MrBronbron]

@iotaunam1 you have changed my mind on the subject iotaunam1. The reason i held that belief was last year i asked my religion teacher the question. He said he thought so but didnt have any sources availible. i checked pope benedicts writings and say a letter wishing that all babies would be able to go to a better place. Thank you for clearing this up with me, could you friend request me. Deus redono .

[MrBronbron]

@iotaunam1 well reading what you just posted definitely changed my mind on the subject. I see that many popes and early church fathers believed this. My religion teacher told me he thought it was possible to go to heaven, but i asked him without sources availible, i did some researching and found a letter from benedict xvi saying he hopes all babies would be able to go to a happier place.

[iotaunam1]

@MrBronbron

To the second part: yes he is the Pope of Course! What exaclty are you trying to prove. This teaching is De fide, I assume you know what that means. If you think to the contrary show me the dogmatic decrees which contradict the ones I have given. To save you time: you wont find any, because when it comes to infallible pronouncements the Church does not and cannot err. I sugeest you read the cannons on justification as I said before. You seem confused here.

[iotaunam1]

@MrBronbron

Where it says what? There are far too many to list. See Council of Trent /Florence canons on Justification/Baptism.

e.g.Denzinger 693 Council of Florence Exultate Deo - Nov 22 1439, Denz 464, Council of Trent Decree on Original Sin Session V, Decree on Justification Session VI, Trent canons on Justification, John XXII Nequa sine dolore - Denz 493a, St Pius V Auctorem Fidei Baptism sec 3 26 Denz 1526. These are only Some examples . St Pius V defended this view against heretics.

[MrBronbron]

@iotaunam1 point out directly where it says that. also do you accept pope benedict the sixteenth as pope.