Christopher Hitchens on Iraq and the Petraeus Report part 2
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This is how intelligent honest people discuss issues. Such exchanges are far to rare.
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@vicj0r Don't be foolish. The Iraqi's had no chance against Saddam; are you familiar with the 1991 uprisings?
Gaddafi would have also suppressed the revolts against him with sheer force as well had it not been for the military might of the US & NATO. So don't try to represent it as if the Libyans took Gaddafi down on their own to support the idea that we shouldn't have intervened in Iraq.
Very slimy comment if I'm to understand you correctly.
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Hitchens looks uncomfortable here. Must have been feeling some kind of chagrin at supporting the invasion. At least US policy makers have learnt something from Iraq; Letting Libyans blow their own country apart to take down Gaddafi was the right choice.
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@AdamCopley1 I'd like to say its not all Americans but as my family is from Italy and I was born and raised in new england I'm hardly representative of the national mood. However I can say that very few Americans would agree that they are the cause of terrorism or that they hold any responsibility for 9-11 beyond the inability to prevent it from happening by means of security.
Most of the arguments against intervention are nationalist and right wing, not of the Galloway/Klein variety.
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If you mean Western lives are more important, then all I can say is at least you're being honest. Unlike many that say 'we've done enough damage' & just pull out. I don't know who they're attempting to protect, besides the willing participants in the war namely the unconscripted troops.
Sometimes I think if the invading countries didn't lose approximately 5,000 troops in Iraq, but over 70,000 Iraqis still died, the war would've never been a political issue in the first place.
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They are
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you must be talking about someone else's mom... his mom prefers balls that are attached.
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Its worse than that. I think we need to be clear that it fits into the abusive subtype of ad hominem argument (which isn't totally worthless per se), on top of which it is badly plagerised, assuming EvilGoblin is not Mr Galloway's online persona. That whole debate was quite pathetic and I'm amazed that Americans respond to his ridiculous rhetoric trawled out at high volumes. On top of that he is a hypocrit and the most morally contemtable man I can thing of.
Christopher Hitchens hit the nail on the head with his comments about America's (& others) commitment to that country that was created by Winston Churchill drawing some lines on a map, after WWII.
The debate in America about whether to pull out or not is based on the conception that US lives are more important than Iraqi lives.
stanzemanek 4 years ago 22
I respect both Jones and Hitchens. A good discussion here. Thanks for the upload.
hunterthompsonfear 4 years ago 10