The Sufi Whirling Dervishes of Istanbul
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@Quran871 Rumi's enlightenment (from whirling, the origin of this meditation) is neither better nor worse than the prophet's door to wisdom, or his sahabas. But it is different. Different does not mean better or worse, but many times we want to cast it that way.
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I'd like to ask a question if I may. I notice the array of colours in their clothing. Is there a purpose to those colours in any specifics?
Thank you for the vid!
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SPIN TO WIN
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@createallow3126 Nicely put. Much respect.
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I know absolutely nothing about this method or its tradition, but I see one way realization could be obtained... If one looks within for That which is not moving, but within which the movement is taking place... that is to what I am pointing. My guess would be that Rumi reached a point where he realized that he was not dancing at all, rather the Cosmos was dancing within his own awareness. Again, I know nothing, but if this is of assistance to anyone, I am glad.
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morgana
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I always pay attention to the mystics in every religion. They are the courageous explorers who get closest to the great mystery.
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@rajonmd Allow me to explain. Sufism is an Islamic sect. The turn, whirl, or sema, is an form of meditation that ideally should lead to enlightenment. It is not to show the balance of the sun. This form of meditation was discovered by Rumi, a Sufi poet whose writings are largely read even in the western world. Tradition says that he heard the music of pipes out of nowhere and instinctively began to spin, and fell down thirty six hours later enlightened. Hope that clears things up a little. :]
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beautiful, divine, humans have the ability to rise to divine evolution and also to become victim to bestiality and this beautiful meditation restores hope in mankind that through love, meditation and celebration, one can rise to the higher realms of divinity.
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@4transform Thankyou for the enlightement. I appreciate you taking time to explain.
So tell me, do THESE ppl bcome enlightened after they fall from their swirling? i doubt it. Rumi was only a poet...why copy wat he did and make it a ritual? REAL Sufism is not like this. Nor is Islam. And Sufism IS a sect of Islam the poster of this video doesnt have to say that. this swirling to music looks like plain bid3aa. dont get me wrong, im a Hanafi Muslim training to be an Imam in a couple years, i love Sufism. this....this is not Sufism
MookieDaCookie 1 week ago
@MookieDaCookie You will not be able to produce a legitimate meditation technique that guarantees enlightenment after doing it. But if ONE person, Rumi in this case, attains enlightenment with a technique, then it is a door for others as well. Rumi was a poet, Kabir was a shoe maker, God can make his home in anyone, their profession does not matter.
4transform 1 week ago 2
Can you pls tell what kind of meditation is this?
aherrns 1 week ago
@aherrns The SEMA meditation lasts app. 45 minutes. Rumi, the man who discovered the efffects of whirling, did it for a long time. He simply started whirling, and whirled for 36 hours continuously, after which he fell down enlightened.
4transform 1 week ago 2
crazy... sufism is not islam!!!
Bilal011uz 1 month ago
@Bilal011uz et al:
The poster of this video never said sufism is islam. I was thinking that a discussion of this nature would evolve for this video, and allowed it up till now. Following this set of comments about the prophet and what is and what is not islam, there will be no more comments allowed about the subject. That discussion has nothing to do with this video nor the reason it is posted here.
4transform 1 month ago 4