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Uploaded by on Oct 24, 2009

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to my first How To video! Today Ill show how to debunk Simon Shacks video PROPAGANDA911 in one easy mouse click. Thats right, just one mouse click is all it takes.

But first, there is an aspect of Simons PROPAGANDA911 that deserves our attention. It concerns Hollywoods effect on the evidence. And by Hollywood, I mean the entertainment industry, in general. Hollywood doesnt view the archival record as evidence, like most of us do; to Hollywood, its just so much raw material for their production! They are allowed to take what ever footage they can get and slice it, dice it, mixnmatch it; strip the audio track out of it and insert whatever they please. My point here is that as we build our case, we should rest it on fact, not Hollywood; and use primary source material whenever possible.

And on this point PROPAGANDA911 fails in some parts because Simon has simply made a movie review; a review of the film THE 9-11 HOTEL. For instance, Simon compares a picture that HOTEL attributes to the Sweeting family with the well-known Rob Howard photograph. Simon did well to point out the similarities and demonstrate that he is capable of doing research. But even if the makers of HOTEL confess that they switched out the Sweeting picture for Howards photo, all Simon has is a piece of their poetic license; and theyve got lawyers. On the other hand, if Simon rests his claim that the Sweeting family is fake simply because HOTEL used the Rob Howard photograph, Simon is likely to come up short and for the same reason poetic license!

If Simon wants to demonstrate that someone is fake, hes going to have to come up with at least one hard fact. And on this point, Simon is successful he does find one hard fact. In HOTEL, Ronnie Clifford describes how he helped a burn victim Julie Ann Maffeo; giving her aid and comfort, helping her to an ambulance, and that she hung on to dear life in hospital for some 40 days before giving up the struggle.

Enter Simon Shack. Simon does some research and finds an archived web story by the BBC dated September 12, 2001. In that story, the BBC interviews John Clifford, the brother of Ronnie Clifford. Brother John is quoted as saying: She subsequently died. Simon Shack notes the difference of some 39 days and hangs his hat on this apparent contradiction as if it supports his spectacular claims of Fakery.

Well, I have to admit that I was shocked! And I had to remind myself that even a broken clock is right twice a day. I went straight to the BBC web site and called up the story and read it for myself, just to make sure everything was cricket; same date, same headline, same picture, same text; even the same quote. Could Simon have actually found something?


Alas, No. There is something visible on the web page that is not visible in Simons graphic. Heading the side bar on the right is a link to a video interview with Brother John and all one needs to do, in order to debunk Simon Shacks PROPAGANDA911 is click on it. Lets watch the interview and listen to the spoken words of John Clifford:

And there we have it: John Clifford was simply miss-quoted. Saying I think she subsequently died, is merely expressing an opinion and does not contradict the statement made by Ronnie Clifford. The apparent contradiction simply evaporates carrying along with it Simons only tangible support for Fakery.

Its back to the drawing board for Simon Shack and Id like to wish him Good Luck.
And that concludes this presentation on how to debunk Simon Shacks PROPAGANDA911 in one easy mouse click.
Special thanks to Matt for the BBC clip!
Thanks to all of you for tuning in. Be well and Godspeed.
End credit music Utru Horas by Orchestra Baobab
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/1540529.stm

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  • "debunking" would require you to address the other points brought up in the video. It took six minutes to find out that ALL your amazing "proof" is that the guy said "I think" regarding the victim who died after 40 days! Was that the entire basis of Shack's film? Uh No. What about that Asian lady who was taking phonecalls in reception? Didn't the doorman say the building was evacuated? You critcize him for doing a film review, whilst you have given us nothing but a crippled u-tube review.

  • @theDarkFlowDotNet~ Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

    I addressed Simon*s only substantive point.

    What about the lady taking phone calls? If you think there was substance, please explain; it looked like innuendo, to me.

    Thanks again.

  • Blue line red line yellow line, just paint them in there somewhere a nd you are at home debs.

  • Would you care to elaborate?

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  • yougene are you interested in finding evidence instead of debunking so much?

  • Honestly I don't think being so "meticulous" is helping much the research here. 911 is not a bad video at all. You want hard proof, well the "switch of copyright" is already proof that the "911 hotel" movie was a propaganda deceptive opera. How about the other claims of taking pictures from impossible location?

    You seem on the way of just debunking every Simon's video, as soon as it comes out. I feel a very bad smell here..

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  • Yes, you are absolutely correct. I stayed straight on Simons disinfo and didnt touch the larger issue Fakery (a concept I support).

    The trick is to establish the type and extent of the MSM involvement using FACTS.

    So far, so elusive.

    My research continues.

    And, Good Luck with yours!

  • The FACT the media was involved is not cancelled out by Simon Shack's disinformation.

  • Not at all!

  • Are you having trouble telling the difference between 'innuendo' and 'fact'?

  • Someone tell this idiot to go to the networks archives and look up the live footage that was aired that day. I don't Simon was working those days at all of those networks and manipulated footage of the Verazzano bridge directly behind the towers when they are 8 miles away and off to the far left of the towers!

  • Simon Shack Debunked? Here is your one hard fact! The media was involved in 911. Here are the knockout blows idiots and no these aren't by Simon Shack:

    watch?v=PshUQPvCUF8

    watch?v=nH8HY4vANIE

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