No I am not getting vegetarianism and veganism mixed up LOL I am a strict vegetarian and I try and buy and eat as vegan as reasonably possible. You are right that some vegetarians do it for diet but at the same time there is a documentary by a man who doesn't 'love' animals but is a vegetarian for the environment, also with factory farming and cruelty in consideration, and won't go and buy leather or animal products. Even those who choose vegetarian diets for health tend to go that way.
@missprincessfifi I wouldn't call that the true meaning. I would just say that is how the word first came to terms. Since then the definition has evolved as a name for anyone who doesn't eat meat, despite their reasons.
It is the girl in the video who tried to define what a ''true vegetarian''. Well if there is such a thing, it is someone who simply doesn't eat meat.
I assume you are getting mixed up with vegetarianism and veganism.
@apocalist420 Everyone gets angry about things at some times. It can be very frustrating dealing with ignorant people and I fully understand that. I don't think it suggests she hasn't found peace with her lifestyle I think it is just interacting with people that gets the better of all of us at some point.
@apocalist420 I have no interest in researching into humans feeling better after eating meat after knowing about the cruelty in the industry. I consider each sides which is why I said I don't bother creating a problem over people who kill animals humanely. Yes meat eaters do protest against inhumane treatment but this has not changed much. Perhaps if you killed that lamb you ate you would feel differently. I love not eating animals, and not even because of the factory farming.
@apocalist420 Well what was that point in that statement then? No we do not kill them to eat them. Do you not know of the fur trade where animals are slaughtered purely for their fur? Because clearly that is what these animals are on earth for. Oh I understand reality very well and am fully capable of seeing beyond my beliefs. Your deeper meaning does have something to do with what you eat because you stated that is why you eat meat. It certainly doesn't sound like a deeper connection.
@apocalist420 Maybe you should have just said that in the first place rather than making some confusing statement about the human conscience. I think you are one of the few people who feel 'better' after eating meat again. I have never heard of this.
@apocalist420 Yes human arrogance. Animals regularly show humans that they do not, in fact, have full power over animals as they believe. Like the killer whale in captivity that attacked and killed it's trainer. Humans believe they can have power over every animal and that they rule. How many things have people learnt from animals? Do you think we would fly if we hadn't seen an animal do it? No. It is not in human nature or biology to fly! I find many animals superior to some people.
@apocalist420 "If one chooses to be vegan for moral reasons how do they keep there conscience clear of nature as it has been since the dawn of life" It seems that you are trying to appear intelligent with your sentencing but it is not coming across that way. How can you keep your conscience clear of nature? It doesn't make sense. Watch a video of people grinding up baby male chicks and see if you feel anything. My conscience is clear because I do not support that industry.
@apocalist420 I find your idea of eating meat because you have found a deeper meaning in life a very strange concept. Generally people find that NOT eating meat evokes a deeper meaning in life. That is, at least, how I feel about it. I feel more valuable in the world and more compassion and understanding towards both humans and animals.
@apocalist420 There is no point in talking of a world that doesn't exist where there are no factory farms. We do not kill or defend ourselves by eating animals so really you are just agreeing that it is unnecessary to eat meat by that statement. I wouldn't call it a bitterness towards humanity... more like an accurate statement on how humans are disconnected from the earth and actual reality. It is AGAINST NATURE to treat animals the way humans do today.
No I am not getting vegetarianism and veganism mixed up LOL I am a strict vegetarian and I try and buy and eat as vegan as reasonably possible. You are right that some vegetarians do it for diet but at the same time there is a documentary by a man who doesn't 'love' animals but is a vegetarian for the environment, also with factory farming and cruelty in consideration, and won't go and buy leather or animal products. Even those who choose vegetarian diets for health tend to go that way.
missprincessfifi 3 weeks ago
@missprincessfifi I wouldn't call that the true meaning. I would just say that is how the word first came to terms. Since then the definition has evolved as a name for anyone who doesn't eat meat, despite their reasons.
It is the girl in the video who tried to define what a ''true vegetarian''. Well if there is such a thing, it is someone who simply doesn't eat meat.
I assume you are getting mixed up with vegetarianism and veganism.
chaosproduction 3 weeks ago
@apocalist420 Everyone gets angry about things at some times. It can be very frustrating dealing with ignorant people and I fully understand that. I don't think it suggests she hasn't found peace with her lifestyle I think it is just interacting with people that gets the better of all of us at some point.
missprincessfifi 3 weeks ago
@apocalist420 I have no interest in researching into humans feeling better after eating meat after knowing about the cruelty in the industry. I consider each sides which is why I said I don't bother creating a problem over people who kill animals humanely. Yes meat eaters do protest against inhumane treatment but this has not changed much. Perhaps if you killed that lamb you ate you would feel differently. I love not eating animals, and not even because of the factory farming.
missprincessfifi 3 weeks ago
@apocalist420 Well what was that point in that statement then? No we do not kill them to eat them. Do you not know of the fur trade where animals are slaughtered purely for their fur? Because clearly that is what these animals are on earth for. Oh I understand reality very well and am fully capable of seeing beyond my beliefs. Your deeper meaning does have something to do with what you eat because you stated that is why you eat meat. It certainly doesn't sound like a deeper connection.
missprincessfifi 3 weeks ago
@apocalist420 Maybe you should have just said that in the first place rather than making some confusing statement about the human conscience. I think you are one of the few people who feel 'better' after eating meat again. I have never heard of this.
missprincessfifi 3 weeks ago
@apocalist420 Yes human arrogance. Animals regularly show humans that they do not, in fact, have full power over animals as they believe. Like the killer whale in captivity that attacked and killed it's trainer. Humans believe they can have power over every animal and that they rule. How many things have people learnt from animals? Do you think we would fly if we hadn't seen an animal do it? No. It is not in human nature or biology to fly! I find many animals superior to some people.
missprincessfifi 3 weeks ago
@apocalist420 "If one chooses to be vegan for moral reasons how do they keep there conscience clear of nature as it has been since the dawn of life" It seems that you are trying to appear intelligent with your sentencing but it is not coming across that way. How can you keep your conscience clear of nature? It doesn't make sense. Watch a video of people grinding up baby male chicks and see if you feel anything. My conscience is clear because I do not support that industry.
missprincessfifi 3 weeks ago
@apocalist420 I find your idea of eating meat because you have found a deeper meaning in life a very strange concept. Generally people find that NOT eating meat evokes a deeper meaning in life. That is, at least, how I feel about it. I feel more valuable in the world and more compassion and understanding towards both humans and animals.
missprincessfifi 3 weeks ago
@apocalist420 There is no point in talking of a world that doesn't exist where there are no factory farms. We do not kill or defend ourselves by eating animals so really you are just agreeing that it is unnecessary to eat meat by that statement. I wouldn't call it a bitterness towards humanity... more like an accurate statement on how humans are disconnected from the earth and actual reality. It is AGAINST NATURE to treat animals the way humans do today.
missprincessfifi 3 weeks ago