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Barack Obama Versus Religion

An amazing & brave moral stance against the dogmatic prejudice of religion. A real surprise for an American politician. "We are no longer a Christian nation." "Folks haven't been reading the Bibl...  
 
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goodgirlable1 (2 days ago) Show Hide
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If some "god" or even God ask me to sacrifice my child I would say one thing: GTFO u cunt.

And I dont care if that "cunt-god" will only "try" me, this kind of entity is filthy and weird if it "tries" people this way because it evidently wants to find demented "empty head" blind faith puppets.

Judaism (and all monotheism) is a gutter.
goodgirlable1 (2 days ago) Show Hide
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obama is a smart man , new testament is demented hippie trash while old testament(aka torah) is jewish mein kampf full of racial hate, despotism,xenophobia, genocidal "commandments" etc - moses was stone age jewish hitler, jesus was right that moses was murder from beginning
gentgent1 (2 days ago) Show Hide
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clearly, Obama is unaware the old testament, new testament connection, or he is just using it to further distance America from Christian ideals. My guess is that he knows the difference, but is merely being political and swaying the ignorant
wrongwayup (3 days ago) Show Hide
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Yes, I am to a certain extend a socialist. But I am *not* a national socialist (nazi stands for NAtionalsoZIalismus). See my other reply for the difference, or google it. :)
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It's basically a combination of nationalism and socialism. Nationalism is an idealisation of a nation, with belief in superiority, and being negative about other groups. You can see how this is be bad.

Socialism alone just advocates public ownership and administration of production and resources. And they prefer equal access to those resources. Basically socialism would like everybody to have equal opportunities. So not only for the rich, for example. In itself a good thing to strive for, no?
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I can see how Nazisocialism could be bad. =D

I actually know what regular socialism is, but I didn't realize all national socialism was so negative. Is it possible to have national socialism without the negative racism or superiority complex?

I agree with socialism, within limits.....I think taxes and wage deductions get too high when too many social programs are introduced. Its good but harder to really succeed. BUT that makes it harder for corruption to succeed sometimes.
aaronkehl (2 days ago) Show Hide
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however I am talking about Christianity here..Islam is a slightly different bag of potatoes. There is some justification within the Quran for violence....there are peaceful verses there too, but theres more room to actually take the text itself as a justification for evil, rather than simply saying, "God is on our side"when Christ spoke against violence, for example when his disciples cut off the ear of the high priests servant when they came to arrest him. says"live by the sword and die by it"
aaronkehl (2 days ago) Show Hide
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he says, "those who live by the sword will die by the sword." Also he told his disciple not to fight and put his sword away. Also he heals the high priests servants ear when it is cut off. And this is when he is getting arrested by his enemies, the high priests!! If that is a message of non violence I don't know what is. Gandhi himself spoke in admiration of the non violent values Christ embodied and taught.
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Politicians can often be corrupt, yes, but that goes for everything that has power. Organised religion as well. But I think I already said that somewhere. :)

(and I'll reply to your private message later, not enough time to write a lengthy reply atm).
aaronkehl (2 days ago) Show Hide
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I have never disagreed that corruption exists within religion. That is a no brainer, and religion has been a source of corruption many times in history. You probably did say this earlier, but perhaps you didn't explain it as clearly. YOu merely sounded like you were demonizing religion as being the source of evils.....which is really a complex issue. the religion itself is not the source of its followers evils. The leaders in religion are so often power hungry and corrupt.

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