Islamic Scholars Issue Fatwa Against Terrorism

Darool-Uloom Deoband, a radical Muslim seminary said to have inspired the Taliban has denounced terrorism as against Islam, calling it an unpardonable sin, in an effort to distance itself from religious violence.

Tens of thousands of clerics and students from around India attended a meeting at the 150-year-old Deoband, north of New Delhi, on Monday, and agreed to take a stand against acts of terrorism.

"There is no place for terrorism in Islam," Maulana Marghoobur Rahman, the ageing rector of Deoband, told Reuters on Tuesday. "Terrorism, killing of the innocent is against Islam. It is a faith of love and peace, not violence."

Its teachings, and its strict interpretation of Islamic law, have spread to many other countries, including Britain and Afghanistan, where they are said to have inspired the Taliban.

Rahman said it was unjust to equate Islam with terrorism, to see every Muslim as a suspect or for governments to use this to harass innocent Muslims.

"There are so many examples of people from other communities being caught with bombs and weapons, why are they never convicted?" said Qazi Mohammed Usman, deputy head of Deoband.

The meeting defined terrorism as any action targeting innocent people both muslim and non-muslim, whether committed by an individual, an institution or a government.

many condemnations of yerrorism can be seen here
http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm

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[TheJack1452]

@dickknows . By the time Umar's message was delivered, Dharar was dead. (Khalid) said: 'Allah didn't want to disgrace Dharar' so this deals a fatal blow to your argument friend that is unless you dont know who umar ibn al khattab is then well you would be pretty pathetic

[TheJack1452]

@dickknows Dharar liked her hence he asked his companions to grant her to him and they did so. He then had sexual intercourse with her, when he completed his mission he felt guilty, and went to Khalid and told him about what he did. Khalid said: 'I permit you and made it lawful to you.' He said: 'No not until you write a message to Umar'. (Then they sent a message to Umar) and Umar answered that he (Dharar) should be stoned

[TheJack1452]

@dickknows Al Shanqeeti, one of our most respected modern Maaliki scholars said in Zaad Al Mustanq'i, Volume 9, page 335 the same exact thing.

and this hadtih :from Harun bin Al-Asam who said: Umar bin al-Khatab may Allah be pleased with him sent Khalid bin al-Walid in an army, hence Khalid sent Dharar bin al-Auwzwar in a squadron and they invaded a district belonging to the tribe of Bani Asad. They then captured a pretty bride,

[TheJack1452]

@dickknows Isn’t it also possible that the Muslim might have bought another slave girl who was willing? Yes that it possible. How does David know that this didn’t happen? What is his proof that they raped them? Imam Al Shafi’ one of our most respected classical scholars said in Kitab al Umm, Volume 3, page 253 said that if someone kidnaps a slave girl and rapes her must face punishment (flogging if he was single and stoning if he was married).

[TheJack1452]

@dickknows So if we put aside our21st century mindset and look at history

there is nothing wrong with saying that slave girls back then consented to having sex with their captors.so if you say that not all the women felt this way and there was bound to be some who didn’t want to have sex,Iwould agree with you.However, how does this prove that the Muslims raped slave girls?How do you know whether the Muslim back then actually raped the slave girl who was unwilling to have sex with him?

[TheJack1452]

@dickknows The pretty girls crowd around the hero who scores the winning touchdown, not around the players of the losing team. And it is certainly true in war: the winning hero "attracts" the women. (Matthew B. Schwartz, Kalman J. Kaplan, "The Fruit of Her Hands: The Psychology of Biblical Women" [ Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing, 2007 ] , pp. 146-147) thus we see from two non muslim scholars that slave women back in the past would consent to having sex with their captors.

[TheJack1452]

@dickknows battle. The Bible recognizes the realities of the battle situation in its rules on how to treat female captives, though commentators disagree on some of the details.

The biblical Israelite went to battle as a messenger of God. Yet he could also, of course, be caught up in the raging tide of blood and violence. The Western mind associates prowess, whether military or athletic, with sexual success.

[TheJack1452]

@dickknows (John McClintock, James Strong, “Cyclopædia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature” [Harper & Brothers, 1894 ] , p. 782)

Matthew B. Schwartz said:

The Book of Deuteronomy prescribes its own rules for the treatment of women captured in war [ Deut 21:10-14 ] … Women have always followed armies to do the soldiers’ laundry, to nurse the sick and wounded, and to serve as prostitutes

They would often dress in such a way as to attract the soldiers who won the

[TheJack1452]

@dickknows - How many women actually ended up having sex with their Muslim captors.

- Most importantly, whether any slave girls were raped

and you are ignorant of history, for slave girls did consensually have sex with their captors:

John McClintock said

Women who followed their father and husbands to the war put on their finest dresses and ornaments previous to an engagement, in the hope of finding favor in the eyes of their captors in case of a defeat.

[TheJack1452]

@dickknows and if he is there then not unless she divorces him by herself and many agree on this second here is your entire argument summed up:

Islam allows sex with female slaves (i agree with this to a certain point)

its inconceivable that a slave would accept accept having sex with her captive

so islam allows rape

but your fault is that u assume too much first all your narration fail to prove:

- How many Muslim captors decided to go through with having sex with the slave girls.