Abraham, Isaac, the sacrifice & the picnic

The story of Abrahams dilemma in obeying Gods request to sacrifice his son.

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[spookysaurus]

Great stuff, KalsolarUK! So I'm not the only one around who considers this particular story a truly jaw-dropping display of savage mental cruelty on the part of 'God'. Imagine: there's Abe with upraised blade, ready and prepared to make the most anguishing and terrible sacrifice that a parent can make, and 'God' turns round and says, "Nah - I'm just messin' with yah..". I mean.. what kind of a sicko god is that?

[kalsolarUK]

Thanks for that, thankfully we're not the only right minded people who think this whole story is nuts - its truely hard to understand how preachers manage to twist this story into something that church goers find believeable and palateable.

[J43fan]

lol hes not married to his sister. so have you come up with anything you have a problem with in this story?

[kalsolarUK]

she was his half sister according to the bible..and he did marry her. The problem I have with this story should be self evident.

[ashboxtoo]

Yes, pretty bloody frosty at breakfast, you can imagine that scene, Issac, Abraham, his sister.

Issac: Can you tell Dad to pass me the milk please Mum.

Sister: Abraham, pass Issac the milk.

Abraham: He can get his own bloody milk, or he can stave.

Issac: Thats what you want isn't Dad.

[kalsolarUK]

hehe, I do find it amusing that so many people forgive so easily in the bible stories. It happens time and time again.

[CorndogMaker]

The next morning at breakfast.

Abraham:...

Isaac:...

Abraham:...uh, sooO. how, uh how'd you sleep son.

Isaac:...

Abraham: Did you have a good-

Isaac:YOU WERE GOING TO KILL ME YOU JACKASS!!

(storms out)

Abraham:...

[2012TNWO]

I Have never heard the story put across with so much humour, very funny.

[olh1152]

The more I hear these stories, the more I find out the religion is a bunch of crock!

[kevinscholes]

God promised Abrahams descendants would be as numerous as the stars of the sky and God gave Abraham His Son when he was 90 years old  a MIRACLE

[srhabb]

I found the story to show more that it was for Abraham's understanding of knowing of what Abraham himself will do. God already knew. Would God really be God if he always had questions? It was accounted to Abraham as righteousness, not because Abraham is something great or because he was one of God's best friends, but because he was obedient. All through the bible God is looking NOT for the deeds but more just for a willing heart. And that is where religion screws people up by twisting that.

[spookysaurus]

lol. And those were just the easy questions...

[ciaochowbella]

Hanging judges were more reasonable then this God of theirs.

I was raised as a Southern Baptist and was thrown out of Sunday school more than once for asking "impertinent" questions. Like, "If you can't go to heaven if you're not saved, do Jews go to heaven? Aren't they God's chosen people?" Or "Why didn't Jesus do big miracles, like give everyone cars instead of donkeys?" They thought I was a smart ass.

[spookysaurus]

Job is another good (or rather, appalling) example, ciaochowbella. kalsolarUK is right: the scariest thing is the way in which the reader's critical judgment gets suspended when this stuff is accepted as scriptural authority. Looked at coldly, the Biblical God screws his followers around, is sick, sadistic, foul-tempered and bloodthirsty, and has the mentality of a wild west hanging judge.

[ciaochowbella]

I always thought the story of Job to be particularly cruel. Job is good and faithful and instead of allowing Job to enjoy the benefits of being good, he makes bets with the Devil......kills all his kids, takes away his wealth, makes him sick......all for a fucking bet.

Moral of the story: doesn't matter how good you are, God might fuck with you for shits and giggles.

[Ali0090]

isaac is not a god astarfillah

[WILLIAMSAMBROSE]

Isaac also heard what was god's intention, Isaac would have been more proud of his father

because god was with his father abraham.

he would have forgotten what had happened

after hearing god's voice and felt he is lucky to be with his father

[Drhlony]

In some way , this myth tell extremist to accept the fact that their children gong to bomp themselves for the sake of God with all respect ! , because Ibraham didn't argue with God . Just Do what Gods tell you , don't argue , he knows the best 0.o"