Interest

a response to
lmcdowall's comments

to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtojnpKjdOU

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[lmcdowall]

If one starts a conversation about health care reform, by stating that one does want health care reform, what good is having a conversation that person? When we say dialog we mean dialog with people Liberal or Conservative people who want to solve problems. Not people who just say: No.

[MikeSarno]

@ lmcdowall "When we say dialog we mean dialog with people Liberal or Conservative people who want to solve problems. Not people who just say: No." If you want to build consensus, then build it. That involves talking with people regarding their concerns. If you don't want to build consensus, then don't build it; but don't *say* you are when you are not.

[coffeepartyusa]

Excellent video MikeSarno. Thank you!

[lmcdowall]

@MikeSarno I do not want to argue with the captain about if we should turn the pumps on or not. The ship is going down and now it's time to act. Those who do not act will be saved from a watery death by those who had the guts to say : you are wrong turn on the dam pumps.

[lmcdowall]

@MikeSarno I have said everything there is to be said. I have given different examples and explained it different ways. We just do not agree. And in my opinion you are wrong. That in no way means I never wanted to talk about it. What is does mean is that we discussed it at lenth and I determined that your point of view is wrong. As is my right. We both can't be right and I'm sure you support your point of view but I support mine as well.

[MikeSarno]

"You are wrong. These Tea baggers don't know wtf they are talking about, period." When you write comments like this, I get the feeling that you don't want dialog.

[lmcdowall]

You are wrong. These Tea baggers don't know wtf they are talking about, period.

[MikeSarno]

@ lmcdowall "Captain says :turn on the pumps! But one guy thinks it's a bad idea to turn on the pumps. Are you really going to start a dialog with that guy?" Even though the analogy presumes a chain of command which we don't have, and a previously encountered emergency for which a system has been developed and put into place, a good captain would probably want to know what the man's concerns are. There could be any number of reasons to NOT turn on those pumps at this time.

[lmcdowall]

@smg1one The house will be ash by the time they deside to act.

[smg1one]

The speaker doesn't have to suspend their opinions in order to listen to the opinions of others. I see his view that they are acting against their own interests as an admission that he has an opinion, not that the other guys opinion doesn't matter.

Firefighters do often make the call as to weather to put the fire out or let it burn itself out and so far the tea party seems to agree that there is a fire but they have yet to suggest a course of action other than to use less water.

[lmcdowall]

@MikeSarno Anyway I do not represent the entire Coffee Party. You can say I'm helping to polarize the country if you want but our country is on the brink and the Republicans just want us to crash and burn so they can say : see, I told Obama was no good. The fact is we need reform. It is not an opinion. The only real question is how do we reform. The Tea Party never wanted to talk about reform, they ruined the debate.