What have Republicans learned from Wisconsin

Carrie Lukas on Lessons Republicans should learn from Wisconsin www.iwf.org

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[Savior20061]

Question: What have Republicans learned from Wisconsin?

Answer: Not a fucking thing.

[StunnedByStupidity]

Thom has the patience of a saint. Why he talks to so many lunatics I dont know. Its time to rise up and crush the despots by taxing the fuck out of them. ALL the facts are on the lefts side and right wingers dont do reality (steam gushes from my ears the moment they open their ignorant mouths). I have ENDLESSLY tried to reach them BUT THEY ARE INSANE BIGOTS... If you want 4 DECADES of research documenting their insanity google 'The Authoritarians' for an EXCELLENT freem ebook on them.

[kansasdem1]

Carrie who? Do I think someone who talks like this broad should move to Kochville....YES!!!!!

[kansasdem1]

Carrie who?

[megagagnon1]

@oolong2 Sad but true. I was posting a wish list, and i know such a thing won't come to pass. Or should i say extremely unlikely. Any bureaucracy fights for its existence, and when it can it fights for growth. There are some exceptions, for example New Zealand in the 90s when they got rid of the farm subsidies. You'd need a crow bar and a few tanks to get rid of the farms subsidies in the US.

[oolong2]

@megagagnon1

People always want to end things they have no real understanding of. It always sounds good as a campaign slogan.

A "Symptom" and not a "disease"? Quite the opposite.

Hypothetically lets say we should "End the Fed". Who would vote for such legislation when half the senators and POTUS are in the pockets of banks that benefit from the Fed?

Answer: NO ONE. It would never even be up for a VOTE.

As long as money controls the debate we will never have honest legislation... PERIOD.

[megagagnon1]

@oolong2 Campaign finance reform is a joke. It's not possible. You're trying to treat the symptoms instead of the disease. I can get into specifics. End the Fed. Close the Dept of Ed, Energy, Homeland Security, get out of Fannie and Freddie, get rid of Dept of Housing and Urban Development, Close all overseas bases, End the wars, Close the IRS, FDA. End All Foreign Aid. Stop being a member of NATO, UN and World Bank.

[oolong2]

@megagagnon1

"downsize the government" or "small government" is just another empty talking point. It doesn't mean ANYTHING until you get into specifics.

That same mentality was used to deregulate the financial markets and where did that lead us?

No, crippling gov. protections and irrational fear of gov. is not the answer. The problem isn't gov. it's MONEY.

The answer starts with campaign finance reform and laws restricting lobbying and the revolving door between public/private jobs.

[megagagnon1]

@oolong2 The solution to massive corruption - downsize the government, especially the federal govt. Less power, less scope, lower budget, means less to sell to corporations. At least when corruption is on a local level there's a natural limit - steal too much and people notice. On the federal level it doesn't really work that way.

[oolong2]

@megagagnon1

I don't deny that either... Republicans fight for the wealthy while pretending it's about freedom and morality and Democrats fight for the middleclass yet cave the first chance they get and blame it on the Republicans. Those are the roles they play.

The issue in our country is not left vs.right it is CORRUPTION.  Just like "separation of powers", we must separate money from politics.

There is more common ground between opposing viewpoints than what gets twisted by cable news.

[megagagnon1]

@oolong2 I'm not fighting that, i'm telling you both dems and repubs are corrupt. What you saw was WWE wrestling - lots of drama and fury, but scripted, with a predetermined outcome.