Why Am I So Obsessed With Orthodox Jews?

http://lukeford.net/blog/ A lot of people wonder why I am so focused on Orthodox Jews aka frum (religious) Jews. I'm an intense unbalanced man. I find Orthodox Judaism more interesting than the non-Orthodox streams. Is that so wrong?

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[jacobk2]

@marcelcol69 Furthermoe, Marcel, there is nothing wrong with Jews living in the Jewish homeland as they have been for 4,000 years.

[jacobk2]

@marcelcol69 This is not true. Every 50 or 100 years there was a major pogrom and murder and rape of many Jews, elsewhere many Jews were forced converted. So Muslims were no better than the Europeans & their pogroms. Even, when there were periods of calm Jews and other on-Muslims were treated as 2nd class Jeziyah-paying Dhimmis.

[jacobk2]

@marcelcol69 Right. He was functionally illiterate. With simple analysis one can easily see this., B/c instead of going to the written biblical Jewish or Xtian source, he and the other compilers of the Qur'an used ORAL stories not found in the bible and many times with facts altered. I.E. the story about Jesus turning clay doves into real ones was not a Christian accepted story..just an oral story created hundreds of years after Xtianity. Qur'an is filled with these examples.

[marcelcol69]

@jacobk2

He(peace on him) was illiterate, not only that but for example christian scruptures were almost classified at that time , exclusively for the church elite, Maybe at that time it was similar with the torah

perhaps at that time most likely you had to be jew to have access to it, or know how to read it

this is why rabbis and christian leaders were appalled with the Qur'an, and they also would ask " How did you learn this" no jew or christian recognized him as his former student

[jacobk2]

@marcelcol69 There are some similarties not certainly no NOT all. Of course it is logical that there would be similarities since where do you think MOhammad got much of the material? From the source, the original which to this day is UNCORRUPTED-TORAH./Hebrew Bible.

[IanHunedoara8]

I can understand Luke Ford because of the experience of Donato Manduzio of San Nicandro- who wrote that his experience of reading the Old Testament in the vernacular for the first time taught him that true religion was concealed to him by the Church and plastered over with images and processions.

[lilfatl]

ISLAM

[marcelcol69]

@ACogloc

muslims helped the jews for hundreds of years, only in the last hundred years have there risen these conflicts but all because of israel

the muslims liberated jerusalem from the romans inviting the jews back, and now you kick us out of most of Israel 1300 years later

MOre like the jews turned their backs on their cousins and all for a secular atheistic state

[marcelcol69]

@ACogloc

torah is similar to sharia law except that it allows for many different options like for instance w/ capital punishment

lets say for example in torah law murderers were executed, the quran would not only provide that option but others ones as well, which lead to jews preferring sharia law at times

sharia law is something which is explained in more than 3500 pages, and never said that torah was simple

reading the torah, many laws are almost exactly like sharia

[ACogloc]

@marcelcol69

Muslims have helped us once and today turn their back to us. Fine. We will continue to counter-attack every time you will attack.

Now for your delusions about Judaism:

Zionism conforms to Torah Law in virtue of commandment to settle in the Land of Israel. Nothing bad here.

Rabbis who reject Zionism are rejected by most Jews for supporting our enemies. Do not consider them.

Torah law is nothing like Sharia law and is not simple: pick a Talmud, 3500 pages and not final. Enjoy.