@dargay I konw quite well what I'm talking about, sir. Umm, PCs can do that too, albeit in numbers--it's called grid computing & server farms, which makes mainframes even look more quaint and awkward. Who's the dumbass now?
@pvx don't talk about stuff you know nothing about you dumbass. Mainframes are built for 24/7 transaction processing or other number crunching. Your PC cannot do that and was not built for that purpose.
@censor48 Yes, but to be frank, mainframes are completely worthless when it comes to graphics/pre-press/media, or any audiovisual content creation & processing.
Sure, they're tops when it comes to unglamorous & utilitarian tasks like databases and all, but PCs are quite adept at applications that mainframes are simply not equipped for. Basically, all flavors of computers have their own niches, with PC being a "catch-all" of sorts due to it being the most versatile, if not the most powerful.
@jdgator95 I worked on an IBM ES9000 around 1990, just as the transition to RAID, RAM-disks and TCP/IP was starting to happen. It was a huge, multi-million dollar installation, and it very likely had half the MFlops of the PC I'm typing this on even with its 8 cores.
But the -throughput- of the system was astronomical. That's where IBM designs really shine.
IBM contributed greatly to Linux multi-core support, and native S/360. A single image on thousands of CPUs? Yep.
@jdgator95 Compared to the massive size of the IBM 1401 or 7030 this thing is tiny. Whats incredible is for its size it is at least several hundred thousand times faster. Makes you wonder where well be in another 40 years.
@dargay I konw quite well what I'm talking about, sir. Umm, PCs can do that too, albeit in numbers--it's called grid computing & server farms, which makes mainframes even look more quaint and awkward. Who's the dumbass now?
pvx 1 year ago
@pvx don't talk about stuff you know nothing about you dumbass. Mainframes are built for 24/7 transaction processing or other number crunching. Your PC cannot do that and was not built for that purpose.
dargay 1 year ago
@censor48 Yes, but to be frank, mainframes are completely worthless when it comes to graphics/pre-press/media, or any audiovisual content creation & processing.
Sure, they're tops when it comes to unglamorous & utilitarian tasks like databases and all, but PCs are quite adept at applications that mainframes are simply not equipped for. Basically, all flavors of computers have their own niches, with PC being a "catch-all" of sorts due to it being the most versatile, if not the most powerful.
pvx 1 year ago
@censor48 now at my workplace,people are calling IBM = Institute of Black Magick :)) ,and yes i work with z/series only xD
enbiscuits 1 year ago
@jdgator95 I worked on an IBM ES9000 around 1990, just as the transition to RAID, RAM-disks and TCP/IP was starting to happen. It was a huge, multi-million dollar installation, and it very likely had half the MFlops of the PC I'm typing this on even with its 8 cores.
But the -throughput- of the system was astronomical. That's where IBM designs really shine.
IBM contributed greatly to Linux multi-core support, and native S/360. A single image on thousands of CPUs? Yep.
CurtHowland 1 year ago
@CurtHowland it's a workhorse, not a toy. no linux there.
code123ns 1 year ago
UNISYS is a great mainframe.
we use them at work.
i like, and am use to their language, and find them
easier to communicate with then IBM
OLD IBM EMPLOYEE USED TO SAY ABOUT IBM
WHICH MEANS
"I'VE BEEN MOVED"=IBM
censor48 1 year ago
mainframes will never die.
they just fad away into improvements, and keep coming back.
pc can never do what a mainframe can.
unless the aliens make themselves known from other space
and introduce mankind to new technology, mainframes are
here to stay.
a database workhorse.
censor48 1 year ago
@jdgator95 Compared to the massive size of the IBM 1401 or 7030 this thing is tiny. Whats incredible is for its size it is at least several hundred thousand times faster. Makes you wonder where well be in another 40 years.
Dms12444 1 year ago
Compare this to the mainframes of the 60s and 70s and what they could do, then think, that's this in 40 years.....crazy
jdgator95 1 year ago