Burning Everyone's Koran
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fucking awesome. thx for uploading
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@IbnFergus No... that's my own video. It's got a clip at 2:45 starting from an NBC news story on Islamic extremism in the UK.
If you want to accuse me of not researching what I'm saying, and making unsubstantiated claims, then you ought to pay attention to what I'm saying just the same.
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@ThinkAbout1t lol thats your source? A youtube video you can't substantiate? Please show me a newspaper article or report about muslim men raping women because they don't cover their hair. It never happened, not even in a place like Afghanistan (show me a report of a single incident of it). Again, not happening and clearly not in the Quran. You're delusional.
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@Golkarian I'll point out here that the original cause of this debate (Terry Jones) had a terrible reason for burning the Qu'ran. But the example given in this video is what I'm defending as justified, and the context in which you perform the action defines the symbolism of the action.
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@IbnFergus It's not me that misinterprets it, I'm reporting the existence of a phenomenon, and citing the source of the (in your opinion*) misinterpretation, and the reasoning behind the misinterpretation.
youtube com/watch?v=Wnb6fNraO9A - starts 2:45 in.
Whether or not you agree with that interpretation of the passage, others do, and others proposed it, and others follow it. That's the problem.
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@IbnFergus It's not me that misinterprets it, I'm reporting the existence of a phenomenon, and citing the source of the (in your opinion*) misinterpretation, and the reasoning behind the misinterpretation.
amnation.com/vfr/archives/0048
11.html I don't agree with the overall theme of that article("Clearly the liberal West and Islam are incompatible."), but I'm just providing an example of what I'm talking about. The article is definitely too influenced by bias.
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@ThinkAbout1t alright, some might be burning the US flag since they disbelieve in capatalism or just think the US is restricting ideas. But that was a metaphor to explain the example, not an argument. The real example is book burning, which remains a symbol of opposition to free speech. Of course a symbol is subjective (a rose only relates to love in people's minds, not reality) so this is more an argument about what people think, not what is and is not.
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@ThinkAbout1t you've jumped to a conclusion so big that you could fit the Grand Canyon in between the jump. How does "lower your gaze" in your mind encourage rape? I think, and Muslim scholars say, that it actually means the opposite; don't go near temptation.
Of all the anti-Muslim stuff I've heard over my lifetime, this is the most original, and one of the craziest.
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@dinther The video was censored as "inappropriate content." I fail to see anything inappropriate about it. That's censorship, without a good cause, and censoring of media which I don't approve. So to show my support, I mirror the video.
Despite the asshole'ish behaviour TJ normally puts on, if you watch through his videos, his arguments and rationale are always refreshing and very good. Especially in that I find his opinions don't exactly align with my own, which always gets me thinking.
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@Golkarian ...
You're telling me everyone who burned American flags in the past was about the *restrictions* of the rights of the people.
Please, think about the implications that scenario, and get back to me.
@ProjectPaladin That... is such a terrible... terrible quote.
"Wherever they budge in line, in the end, they will also shove people to the ground and beat them."
~Random unimportant individual claiming superior insight.
ThinkAbout1t 1 year ago 3
Qu'Ran... surely?
lolocaustism 1 year ago 3