Merton Renunciation contemplation 9 9 09

A lecture to novices by Thomas Merton. The lecture is from the 'Renunciation and Contemplation' CD set from Creedence Communications. This is a part of a lecture from CD 1 of 2.

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[megansspark]

thank you, I must order these! :)

[Journeys2008]

You're welcome!

[muskies216]

bless us fr. merton

[KYIRISH1]

I had the honor of meeting Fr. Louis in the bookshop at Gethsemani KY in 1965. I naturally knew who he was, and what he was about, but never did I think he would command the attention and respect he has received nearly fifty years later.

[TheChaz2011]

Ohjok are you finished? Deal with your pride. GOODBYE!!

[MrOhjok]

@TheChaz2011 You would tell me, lay off the ignorance but it's O.K. for you to claim "novices left" because YOU think Merton "reeked arrogance." I mirrored your tone, that's all. I too, was a monk, a Carthusian. No better than anyone here. I know many monks who lived with Merton. So what? You call Merton arrogant but when I reflect your tone, you get ruffled. Hmm. 15 years? Pride dies hard brother.

[Trundlebeth]

Yes - the instructions over the shower ae ironic since he was electrocuted in one. Now if you looked at that as God's Will or 'Part of the Plan' - gleaned from the Divine Filing cabinet - that would be plain silly wouldnt it? Of course some of the ignorant biggots commenting here (who claim to be 'Christian' incidentally) would probably see this as Divine Retribution on Merton What a mess Christianity has got itself into. No wonder people scratch their heads in bewildrerment.

[skram42]

amazing.



[nunfonseca]

@SoloFlyer55 The men who were the Desert Fathers were disciples of the Apostles through succession. You should read them before you criticize them: their sayings and deeds are of such holiness that we can only marvel at and give glory to God. They were men, indeed, but so were the disciples, the kings and prophets of Israel, for God always used human fallible means to achieve his perfect divine ends, as God's Word shows us.

[TheChaz2011]

Dear Mr. Ohjok, First of all lay off the ignorance comment. Having been a trappist for over fifteen years working next to those who knew Him well. YES!! He was a sinner like all of us. Not a little GOD! In a complete human way he made positive contributions. GOD GRANT HIM ETERNAL REST!

[MrOhjok]

@TheChaz2011: If Novices left, they did so for the usual and varied reasons that Novices leave, not because of Merton, or what you judge as arrogance. Your comment, I'm afraid, reeks of ignorance. He made them laugh. They enjoyed his company. If you studied his life in depth, you'll see that he was appreciated and held with affection by younger monks. This video is both, young men being entertained, yet also educated by Merton. A great skill. His tone of voice is that of a scholar. A holy man.