@Demo7IIRider Well I guess one of us is right and the other is wrong, and that opinion will be different for each of us. I suppose we should agree to disagree. And I do shoot pretty regularly. Please note, though, that I won't respond anymore, and that this isn't a admittance of defeat.
@gyro231995 i mean i probibly mislead you in what i know because the short comment space of 500 characters, but i was like you and didnt believe supressors reduced recoil. but they do. so i went and done some reading and yea, its correct. but yea im not trying to make you upset or anything, i just want to sare what ive learned, but yea i dont even know how this discussion lead to supressors off a home fab zip gun. but any way, you shoot at all?
@gyro231995 the supressor. everything youve stated i already know and to me is just regurgitated information. recoil comes from bullet mass, cartrage powerd (or velovity) barrel leinth, weight of weapon. and if in an auto, the recoil-spring and/or mass of bolt carrier. all of these play a factor in recoil. but remember that this is a video to show a simple zipgun can be made. not a physics class. im not going to argue with you nor am i going to debate proven facts.
@gyro231995 well recoil does matter, it dosent make the gun jump when your sighted in @600+yds. and allows faster followups with out re-adjustment. and most long range cal is .308 and up like .338 lapua, .408 cheyec. even .50bmg. but not too many suppress the .50 (cannon) but there is a whole other science with supressors. but go to a form1 supressor forum. and check out what people say about supressors. its also why ar15 platform needs a adjustable gas line to compensate the backpressure from..
@GermanSharp1 yes you can put regular .22lr, but remember its not a rifled barrel. so it wont be accurate. but in terms of a lead thrower, yep it works.
@gyro231995 ...makes no sense because, as long as it isn't so powerful as to cause physical harm, the recoil of a bolt action rifle doesn't matter because a) the recoil happens after the bullet leaves the barrel; it doesn't affect accuracy, and b) the speed at which you can reload is the limiting factor. Lastly, if the casing being pushed backwards isn't the main cause of recoil then how do recoil operated weapons operate?
@Demo7IIRider ...weapon. That is true, but the gasses escaping are even lighter and moving slower so impart much less force. I know that you will counter this fact with some convoluted argument but it is what it is. As for the bullet, while it is very light, it is moving extremely fast. Using the formula f=ma (remember basic physics?) we can explain why such a light entity can impart such a large force. You also say that bolt action snipers use suppressors to reduce recoil. This...
@Demo7IIRider I am considering all major factors. The exhaust gasses exiting the barrel are negligible. Consider the gun-powered blank cartridge. This is just a normal cartridge without a projectile. Now if you say is correct it should have full (or just about) recoil. However this is not the case. Compare this video [watch?v=GWN7GAazTyo] to this one[watch?v=AwW31u6wYvE&feature=fvwrel] and I think you will see the difference. You also say that the bullet is light compared to the...
hey you never made the vid of you shooting the .22 cal
tyhat89 1 hour ago
nice air soft conversion
superbungabunga 3 days ago
@Demo7IIRider Well I guess one of us is right and the other is wrong, and that opinion will be different for each of us. I suppose we should agree to disagree. And I do shoot pretty regularly. Please note, though, that I won't respond anymore, and that this isn't a admittance of defeat.
gyro231995 3 weeks ago
@gyro231995 i mean i probibly mislead you in what i know because the short comment space of 500 characters, but i was like you and didnt believe supressors reduced recoil. but they do. so i went and done some reading and yea, its correct. but yea im not trying to make you upset or anything, i just want to sare what ive learned, but yea i dont even know how this discussion lead to supressors off a home fab zip gun. but any way, you shoot at all?
Demo7IIRider 3 weeks ago
@gyro231995 the supressor. everything youve stated i already know and to me is just regurgitated information. recoil comes from bullet mass, cartrage powerd (or velovity) barrel leinth, weight of weapon. and if in an auto, the recoil-spring and/or mass of bolt carrier. all of these play a factor in recoil. but remember that this is a video to show a simple zipgun can be made. not a physics class. im not going to argue with you nor am i going to debate proven facts.
Demo7IIRider 3 weeks ago
@gyro231995 well recoil does matter, it dosent make the gun jump when your sighted in @600+yds. and allows faster followups with out re-adjustment. and most long range cal is .308 and up like .338 lapua, .408 cheyec. even .50bmg. but not too many suppress the .50 (cannon) but there is a whole other science with supressors. but go to a form1 supressor forum. and check out what people say about supressors. its also why ar15 platform needs a adjustable gas line to compensate the backpressure from..
Demo7IIRider 3 weeks ago
@GermanSharp1 yes you can put regular .22lr, but remember its not a rifled barrel. so it wont be accurate. but in terms of a lead thrower, yep it works.
Demo7IIRider 3 weeks ago
@gyro231995 ...makes no sense because, as long as it isn't so powerful as to cause physical harm, the recoil of a bolt action rifle doesn't matter because a) the recoil happens after the bullet leaves the barrel; it doesn't affect accuracy, and b) the speed at which you can reload is the limiting factor. Lastly, if the casing being pushed backwards isn't the main cause of recoil then how do recoil operated weapons operate?
gyro231995 3 weeks ago
@Demo7IIRider ...weapon. That is true, but the gasses escaping are even lighter and moving slower so impart much less force. I know that you will counter this fact with some convoluted argument but it is what it is. As for the bullet, while it is very light, it is moving extremely fast. Using the formula f=ma (remember basic physics?) we can explain why such a light entity can impart such a large force. You also say that bolt action snipers use suppressors to reduce recoil. This...
gyro231995 3 weeks ago
@Demo7IIRider I am considering all major factors. The exhaust gasses exiting the barrel are negligible. Consider the gun-powered blank cartridge. This is just a normal cartridge without a projectile. Now if you say is correct it should have full (or just about) recoil. However this is not the case. Compare this video [watch?v=GWN7GAazTyo] to this one[watch?v=AwW31u6wYvE&feature=fvwrel] and I think you will see the difference. You also say that the bullet is light compared to the...
gyro231995 3 weeks ago