NBC's "Law & Order SVU" and Grey Rape episode co-starring Christine Lahti and Mariska Hargitay
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@matthewlane Um, NEITHER of them should have been consenting to sex if they are both drunk.
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We could call it grey self defense.
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If there is alcohol involved and a woman is so drunk and a male tries to take advantage of her and she says no and he ignores her and continues to attack her she should be allowed to take out a gun and blow his fucking head off and be able to say that he was so drunk that he asked for it. that is my opinion
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to any sexual encounter automatically means that someone's getting raped-- at least that's what I think you're saying. Correct me if I'm wrong.
If both people are drunk, is it possible to be both the victim and the rapist?
Also if a tree falls in the forest with no one around to hear it, does it make a sound?
Like I said before, I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly.
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absolutes is extremely dangerous when it comes to something like this. a story: a long-term couple splits 2 weeks after they had sex w/1 of them drunk- but there was total recall, and no regrets.
Now after hearing in this video that if there's alcohol involved, he/she was 100% raped - and he/she wants to hurt the ex, so sexual assault charges are filed.
As for alcohol, clearly it DOES change everything--you said so yourself: since one cannot give consent while intoxicated, adding alcohol...
@DateSafeProject Actually thats not what Gray Rape is at all. Gray Rape is when a drunk women consent to have sex with an equally drunk man. Then the next morning she suffers from buyers remorse & then claims it was rape. I'm sorry but your misandry is showing. This idea that drunk men are somehow more responisble then drunk women is such sexist tripe. Feminists claim to want equailty, up until it comes to equality of responsibility & then its suddenly all mens fault.
matthewlane 11 months ago
@matthewlane Consent is what people want. To give consent, you must be of "sound mind." For this reason, most states have made it clear a drunk person cannot give consent. If you are asking why one person is held responsible, the answer is the person who is the perpetrator (aggressor) is still responsible drunk or sober. Why? You are responsible for harming another person whether drunk or sober. You are not held responsible for someone harming you (whether you are drunk or sober).
DateSafeProject 11 months ago
@DateSafeProject Exactly, so by that theory, two drunk people who has sex willingly with each other, can't have simultaneoulsy raped each other. This doesn't even work as a logic chain let alone a freaking law. See Grey rape is not when one person gets the other drunk as to have sex (thats just rape). Grey rape is when 2 drunk people have consesentual sex & the next morning someone suffers buyers remorse.
matthewlane 11 months ago
@matthewlane You are going on the basis 2 people are equally drunk which rarely occurs. If that situation were to occur, the law would typically look at who was the aggressor.
You keep referring to what you believe "Grey Rape" is by referring to "Buyer's Remorse." This is not the definition used in the media and/or news outlets.
DateSafeProject 11 months ago
blitzmut, legally a drunk person cannot give consent to sexual activity. While I'm not a lawyer, this law is pretty consistent across the country.
As to the both people being "equally" drunk, a good approach is to ask, "Why would anyone set that standard for having sexual activity?"
DateSafeProject 1 year ago
kierier7777, both males and female are survivors (effects all genders). The show is discussing a male - female case. Can a male be sexually assaulted when he is intoxicated? YES! Anyone can be sexually assaulted whether sober or intoxicated.
The idea most males are "demonized" when involved in a sexual act while intoxicated is simply not the norm (in fact, rarely do you hear of it happening). The research shows more often intoxicated females ARE unfairly blamed for what others do to them.
DateSafeProject 1 year ago