Shame on Pasadena Humane Society

Could the inhumane treatment of wildlife be a favor bought by donations? This is not humane treatment of animals. In violation of the leash law Pasadena humane still allows loose dogs to chase and even kill wildlife in Lower Arroyo Park, a designated wildlife corridor, here in Pasadena. This has gone on since 1992 and still goes on in 2012. The politicians in this city are useless to anyone that questions this practice. Lower Arroyo Park is in one of the most affluent sections of the city. Local residents are permitted by the city council and Pasadena humane to use this natural area as their private off leash area. Dog owners with dogs on a leash are latterly chased from the park. Money talks. Pasadena humane and local politicians listen

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[benjaminschwarz1]

No, Max. As a quasi-literate, you're obviously unfamiliar withe the import of the phrase "This correspondence is closed." After your last message, I looked at the videos you posted--I was especially struck by the one in which you're prancing about your living room. You strike me as a bitter, strange, and pitiful elderly man with too much time on his hands and not enough friends. I decided I can't waste any more time with this.

[max2right]

@benjaminschwarz1 You’re simply attempting to salvage a modicum of self-respect after realizing the position you took in defense of the status quo in Lower Arroyo Park was shown to be illogical and wrong. If you really considered this time wasted why comment again at all? Decided to waste even more time did you? You seem to not understand relevancy as your opinion of me is irrelevant to the issue just as in your opening comment your personal experience in the park was irrelevant.

[max2right]

@benjaminschwarz1 I see that you opted to end our conversation. It reminds me of what my dad told me as a teenager. “If you can’t stand the heat don’t start a fire.” Attempting to justify the breaking of laws is always a losing proposition. The Pasadena Humane Society is taking our tax dollars for a service required by contract that they do not give. It’s theft, a breach of contract and immoral. The society and director McNall should be held accountable.

[max2right]

@benjaminschwarz1 I’m greatly impressed. Your comparison is still absurd but, I’ll play your silly game. I do try to obey all traffic laws. I make mistakes sometimes however, I don’t speed, run red lights or stop signs or run down pedestrians day after day year after year and I do expect the laws to be enforced. Do you not see the difference here? You act as an apologist for the rude, inconsiderate and illegal behavior you see in the arroyo. You shouldn't take pride in that

[benjaminschwarz1]

@max2right I write--and read--for a living, so the answer to your question is: No. And, again, you're a careless reader, because my taking your point is not the same as my agreeing fully with your point. So, Max, once again: Do you comply fully with all speed limits? If not, you don't believe all laws must be strictly enforced, but that this law, for some reason, must be more strictly enforced than other laws--and of course speed laws protect more people and animals than the leash laws.

[max2right]

@benjaminschwarz1 I read very well. The tone of your comment is apologetic towards those that unleash their dogs day after day year after year. If you fully agreed with my point why then make the absurd comparison of loose dogs to traffic deaths. Intemperance is a virtue when defending my rights, the rights of others and the creatures living in the aroyo. “I take your point, but…” is an equivocation not an affirmation. Could it be that you're not a careful writer?

[benjaminschwarz1]

@max2right Max--You're not a very careful reader. You are also a bit intemperate. I ask precisely: SInce you are such a stickler for the law, I hope and assume that you favor the most stringent enforcement of speeding laws--after all, speeding by "inconsiderate and irresponsible" drivers is responsible for far more serious mishaps than are some unleashed dogs. And I am sure that you, yourself, strictly adhere to all speed limits laws. Again, I take your point about adhering to leash laws.

[max2right]

@benjaminschwarz1 Your personal experience is irrelevant read the signs. Lower arroyo is designated a natural park & wildlife corridor. Think about the danger 20 to 30 loose dogs a day poses to the creatures that live & use the area. Think about the rights of responsible dog owners with leased dogs that are literally chased away by the actions of the rude, inconsiderate & irresponsible dog owners. Are you also an apologist for traffic law violators because they haven’t crashed into you?

[benjaminschwarz1]

I take your point, but I'm not a dog owner and I have been running in the Arroyo everyday for six years--and while I regularly see leash-less dogs, I have *never* witnessed a problem with a dog. I run into a very sweet and well-behaved leash-less pit mix daily and have never had a problem with him. I just hope you take the same attitude toward people who violate the speeding laws--after all, cars injure and kill far, far more people than dogs, leash-less or otherwise.

[dfrydendall]

Hey, if anyone wants to go talk to these owners feel free to contact me.