Re: Let The Bible Speak - "Is Once-Saved-Always-Saved True?"

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[PreacherNorm]

OK, "NotYourTypicalNegro," would you define the term "once-saved-always-saved" for the audience. I appreciate your interest in keeping the discussions on correct terms.

[NotYourTypicalNegro]

PreacherNorm, without getting into whether or not I agree or disagree you have greater problem, which is that of definitions. I think you should first define the terms/concepts you are referencing ("saved", "once saved, always saved", "falling from grace", etc.). Failing to do this only creates more confusion. And as for your rating, you got that because of the category you're in -- Autos & Vehicles. so I wouldn't get too excited.

[PreacherNorm]

I really appreciate your clarifying that for me. I didn't even notice what the category was. I normally post to the people & blogs category, so I really didn't even think about. About defining the terms, I think you're right that terms need to be defined but when the term "once-saved-always-saved is used I think that most people in the denominational world understand what that is referring to.

[Love6653]

No Norm Let The New Covenant Speak, Not The Whole Bible. You Willing To Debate On Rightly Dividing The Word Of Truth. You Debate All These Other Things, Will You Debate Me On This, I Think Not Because You Know I Can Answer All Your False Notions That Mathew-John B4 The Cross Is New Testament. Show us Book Chapter And Verse That Proves Mathew-John B4 The Cross is New Testament? Show Us New Testament B4 The Cross. Mathew 5:17-18 Mathew 7:12 Mathew 1:21 Mathew 10:5-6 Mathew 15:24.I Await.

[rlmelco]

‎"You therefore, beloved, since you know this beforehand, BEWARE LEST YOU ALSO FALL FROM YOUR OWN STEADFASTNESS, being led away with the error of the wicked;" - 2 Peter 3:17

[Kagemuxa]

@NotYourTypicalNegro watch?v=HYz_GqtdOI8

[rossdaboss1959]

If saved always saved, Why would Jesus tell us to pray always that we might be accounted worthy to escape the wrath to come? He that shall endure until the end. Colossians 1:23. Timothy 4:1-3. Hebrews 3:12, 4:1, 10:26. There's so many more. But you don't have to fall. Jude 1:24. Matthew 24:13, 24:48-51, 25th chapter. These virgins all had oil at one time, but five of them let their oil or Holy Ghost run out. Their lamps were gone out. Stay filled with God's presence. God bless you all!

[PreacherNorm]

Oops! Wrong account. But thanks, again.

[WingChunUniversity]

@Anwarrior09 Thank you for your very good comment.

[Anwarrior09]

If our beliefs contradict the whole of the Word of God, we must conform to the word. We must not take a few verses that declare the promise that God will never forsake us, and ignore the ones that admonish us to persevere unto the end lest we believe in vain and to examine and test ourselves daily to see whether we are in the faith. This is not work's salvation. This is fear and reverence for God in a loving relationship. God will never impose on our free will. Every gift can be disgarded.

[Anwarrior09]

Thank you preacher Norm. I thought I was alone when I read scripture that says the no one can pluck us out of God's and he who began a good work will finish it; HOWEVER, admonishments to persevere unto the end and not to quench the Holy Spirit, as well as not to DEPART from the faith you were once in Christ. Every word of God is pure (Proverbs 30:5) and we must take it so. Christ is not divided, and scripture says he is the word; thus the understanding of the word must be found undivided.