German Avatar TV News Video

National German TV Media coverage of the LGAT cult "Avatar" run by Star's Edge owner Harry Palmer and Avra Honey-Smith (formerly the Elmira, NY Mission of the Church of Scientology)

English transcript: http://riddick.newsvine.com/_news/2008/03/18/1375633-german-tv-segment-on-ava...

Category:

News & Politics

Tags:

• avatar
• lgat
• cult
• stars
• edge
• harry
• palmer
• avra
• honey-smith
• scientology
• german
• tv
• documentary
• wizards

[bigmind]

I think the influence of TV and the intentions of TV makers is very much like a brainwashing cult too, don't you think? What effect has all the negative news on us...that's a scary thought...

[RiddickNews]

Interesting how some comments are so psychologically defensive, attacking the credibility and intention of the source or the media presentation of facts, not addressing the facts themselves.

Anyone is welcome to do their own investigation and report it publicly (as I have). This video is hardly a lone voice of these accusations. Many of the claims are well documented and have been verified over and over by various people.

But it's always easier to shoot (or whine about) the messenger.

[bigmind]

What would be the goal of this organisation? It's not "making money" because there are easier ways to do that. "Controling people"? Realy? What could be the goal of an organisation who wants people to become source...teach them to "feel" and learn about "compassion"? Do German TV makers ever think about that or are they lookiing for making people afraid?

I think this vid is a reflection of what's going on in German TV more than anything else.

[RiddickNews]

Anybody can preach compassion and pretend to empower. And for Palmer, there is no easier way to make money. LOTS of money.

[hellochicken8]

(continued) avatar helps in many ways but could it possibly be some sort of sick joke that turns people into robots. what should i do? get out? or should i just carry on with this personal utopia that i can 'create' at any time...

[RiddickNews]

You have to decide when you're taking on THEIR world view and become obsessed with it as some kind of be-all-end-all for everyone (or YOU did it wrong). It's the sick subtle manipulative mentality Palmer teaches, which good-meaning people turn a blind eye. That's your choice.

Some people wont buy products made in forced labor camps. Is something you could honestly learn on your own (sans the group emotional mania) worth making someone who could be well considered a con artist even more rich?

[vpeters88]

This video uses a dumped boyfriend as proof of the cult potential. REALLY??? Maybe the guy is a DORKK!!!

[plue44]

All i know is:

One of my clerks changed her behaviour in very short time in a very negative way. Finally, she quit the job...as a single mom of an eight year old toughter. Today i found out that she is an "avatar" master. I don´t know, how she payed as an unemployed single mom all the courses....i feel sorry for her toughter.

[freetibetrangzen1]

ACHTUNG!!! AVATAR IST EINE SEKTE!!! SIE STEHLEN DEIN GELD UND ZERSTÖREN DEIN LEBEN!!!!

[bigmind]

The Avatar tools are good because people can use them to think for themselves, and get a direct experience of who they are. The organisation is a different story, because the leaders are stuck in a viewpoint that they need to save the world, the goal is justifying the means more and more. It is moving in a direction of a cult, quite impossible to belief when you know the material from the inside and when you have met some people; there aare a lot of good people inthere...

[bigmind]

True...It is becoming increasingly difficult to have your own viewpoint once you are insed the organisation. It is a pity indeed...

[twendream]

money is energy. and money transfers the energy from the poor to the rich.thats why money is. knowlege of avatar is the pure way of scientologie,to transfer the big money to avatar corp.harry palmer never learned nothing from his owen history,see on wikipedia his desaster with eldon braun. searching for light cost nothing, but looking into the sun to much cost your eyelight. harry palmer is a wrong prophet and all the poor people they drive with him, they drive in a wrong direction...

[adsfgfdhgsgjsdfg]

I was going to comment in here but RiddickNews has this covered pretty well. Good job keeping them honest.

Lesson: dont eat fruit from a poison tree.

[11Jamie11]

Sounds like somebody finally decided LRH and Miscavige shouldn't be the only ones cashing in on the $cientology formula for draining weak people of everything.