David Spero - The Guru is the Self

Excerpt from an internet talk by Spiritual Master/Avatar David Spero, whose teachings are inclusive of many spiritual approaches: Advaita Vedanta, Kundalini Shakti, Divine Mother Kali, Meditation. http://www.davidspero.org

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[Blufire48]

David offers a LIVE WEBCAST. It's free & open to the public. You need a high-speed internet connection and register a free account at friendsofdavidspero (.org). to participate. Namaste!

[sahajati1]

You've actually got it backwards, my friend. It's by being the best STUDENT, the most open, most receptive, most HUMBLE student, that you eventually evolve into being a teacher. It is not the agenda to become a teacher from the beginning that produces a real teacher, it's the ability to stay in the posture of LEARNING forever. Your obsession with self-mastery is simply the wish to succeed and prove yourself through the use of the human will, which is the center of the separate & loveless "I."

[smudge6699]

@sahajati1

No, Buddhist rely on the practises of Buddha, why re-invent the wheel?

Happily I am not stuck in an -ism, I am everything and nothing, all the faiths and none.

I follow no one, so that would mean I've become a teacher where once I was a pupil.

It is the job of the student to become the master, it is the wisdom of the master to always remain a student.

If you really want to learn anything, first find the best teacher.

[sahajati1]

Buddhists rely on Buddha for instruction, example, and teachings. That's hardly "transcending" through only your "own efforts." As long as you call yourself anything, belong to any "ism," Buddhism or anything else, you are dependent. David is saying that your own Self and that of the Guru are one - they are "God."

[sahajati1]

No. David would probably say that all that you've done on your own was and still is valuable; it was not "for nothing."

[sahajati1]

Watch more of David's videos to gain a wider appreciation of his viewpoint, which is quite unlike J Krishnamurti's in many ways.

[bardoface]

He doesn't mean that you don't have an outer guru, he's pointing to the esoteric domain of that relationship. This is easily misunderstood, but a relationship with him is implicit in what he's saying. In the context of Transmission, or Diksha, you can quickly realize and feel that there really isn't an other. He meets you in this domain, so it's not an imaginative relationship.

[bardoface]

What David is saying is true and subtle and can be misunderstood, if one is not careful. The relationship in consciousness is Shakti which imparts Satchitananda and is non-local and demonstrates oneness, literally.