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Dr. Keller for me, does a wonderful job articulating the reasons for needing God in our lives and the overwhelming faith one must have to believe. In reading and studying the Bible, my interpretation of why God allows for evil and suffering is solely based on the sin of man. As humans, we have totally rejected God and sinned against him. We deserve nothing but hell and enternal suffering. But by Gods wonderful grace and mercy, he offers all of us a way to be with him forever, and that way is Je
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@justsaynotodrugs Just because you believe in your heart that a god exists does not mean he exists, how naive is that? Give me one shred of undeniable proof God exists and you can convert me on the spot.
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@DanceDiggy The fact that you have expressed your perspective of Jesus as a "kid with an antfarm" tells me that you in fact had no relationship with Jesus Christ but rather a relationship with religion. To refute your previous statement, it is very possible to have an afterlife without Jesus that is what hell is in fact. Glad we got that out of the way. Just because you chose to believe in your mind that God does not exist does not in fact make him cease to exist, how naive is that? hah.
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@justsaynotodrugs The difference is water is necessary for survival...we can prove that. We cannot prove an afterlife, and we definitely cannot prove Christ is necessary for an afterlife. I was raised religous and knew Christ/God and decided that he doesnt exist; and if he does exist I refuse to worship a kid with an ant farm torching his "servants" for not doing what he wants.
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@RGuerra1980 Uh, that's an affirmative. The Lord Jesus says that everyone and anyone who does not repent and believe in him is going to be burning eternally in a lake of fire. He likens them to trash in a burning garbage dump. Next question? I can't stand this kind of yuppie church "diplomacy". This sounds just like Joel Osteen avoiding the same question on Larry King. For heaven's sake, just speak the truth in love. If the word of God offends, then so be it.
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Tim Keller is Awesome. What a gift. many of those questions were tough,. However, he managed to give fairly decent responses.(excellent responses in my opinion)
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@justsaynotodrugs Why is the path narrow. Did you ever ask yourself that question ? Why would a loving god limit his eternal bliss to a few elect..? Didn`t tell a parabel inviting the homeless to the banquet ? If your father acted like god, people would hang him on the spot.
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@ndzoko Thats bible, the path is narrow my friend. If an atheist believes there is no God and wants nothing to do with the Idea then hell is God only giving you what you wanted in the first place. Total absence of God, which is hell as you cal lit "in a nutshell". Of course I wouldn't expect anyone just to realize these things without first seeking God for themselves. Do yourself a favor.
Is it just me or did he seem really squishy and uncomfortable giving answer about the fate of those who aren't in Christ (listen starting at 14:00)? We need men who can give clear and direct responses to those type of questions. His answer seemed cloudy, muddled and unconvincing.
RGuerra1980 5 months ago 9
@RGuerra1980 i agree. i understand that he's trying to be diplomatic about it but replacing the word "hell" with a phrase like "Christless eternity" doesn't do anyone any favors. the fact is, some people who don't like Christ would be quite comfortable with the idea of a "Christless eternity". also what disturbed me was his almost rob-bell-sounding answer about not knowing the eternal future when it comes to divine judgement. the "i'm on a need to know basis" argument doesn't sound very firm.
indigokiller 5 months ago 6