Mass Defect, Eezo & Dark Things

Here I look at some of the basic science of the Element Zero, Dark Energy, and Einstein pops in to help us discover the nuclear binding energy.

Category:

Gaming

Tags:

• Mass
• Effect
• Element
• Zero
• Dark
• Energy
• Matter

[markotarma]

Well, it's science fiction. One can't be picky with the science. I find faults in every science fiction movie or game I've ever seen, but it can still be good. You should do videos for Star Trek and other scifi-series though, because this is entertaining, even though I love Mass Effect.

[smudboy]

@markotarma

But it's not science fiction, it's sci-fi. In that regard, no, one can't be picky with the science. Regardless, their science is wrong.

I think I have too many projects on the go!

[markotarma]

@smudboy Wait, Sci-fi is just short for Science Fiction.

Anyhow, Much science is wrong in ALL sci-fi. But I get it, you hate Mass Effect ;)

[smudboy]

@markotarma

/watch?v=JDNrnpefGio

I don't hate Mass Effect. Although I can't say the same for some of it's fans.

[VinnieTheMind]

Bare neutrons are unstable, decaying at a half-life of about 15 minutes, but eezo is (in the fiction) created when ultra-high-energy radiation from supernovas interacts with normal matter. Presumably then, eezo is a stable or nearly stable particle which interacts with other matter much like an atom except it has the property of producing a field which bridges the electro-weak force and gravity/inertia by modifiying the vacuum energy in the field. I think - maybe it wasn't the vacuum energy.

[smudboy]

@VinnieTheMind

It sounds like it's borrowing from the idea of neutronium, but I can't be sure. It's close though. They made no mention of the inside of a neutron star. And really, all they had to say was "neutronium."

[WelcomeGhostsIV]

Right.... How about explaining it to me like i were a 5-year old?

[PipePlazaStudios]

Are you a scientist?

[Ulicus]

The ME wiki has sourced its information to an image in ME2 that identifies Eezo as an actual element. But I'd chalk this up to the ME2 art guys making a mistake, as opposed to an intentional retcon.

[Ulicus]

"A quick note: "element zero" is a human nickname. It should not be interpreted to mean eezo is a literal element. In the in-game codex, it's referred to with the deliberately vague term "material ... It is "unobtainium" (i.e., made-up BS). But it's most emphatically NOT an element. I helped develop the tech base and wrote all the ME1 codex entries, so I can speak with some authority on that. :)" - Chris L'Etoile

I'd post the link, but YouTube won't let me.

[BlueCosmology]

@omnicracy

When they say that it can manipulate mass to cause mass to be negative, they could of easily claimed to make mass imaginary which would be in line with the laws of physics allowing FTL travel, but saying it makes mass negative allowing for FTL travel, sounds more scientific to people that don't know about science than saying it makes mass imaginary allowing for FTL travel. Even though the one about making mass imaginary, would according to special relativity allow FTL travel.

[BlueCosmology]

@omnicracy ". I figured Mass Relays somehow used Eezo to get rid of the Higgs field (sp?) in a VERY small corridor allowing for massless travel through warp space."

That wouldn't work, it would just be the same as not interacting with the Higgs field as light does, and would travel at the speed of light.

[sebaswildboy]

wtf!

[DoctorFuhhney]

Hmmm. I clicked on this video to lose brain cells but I guess I gained some instead

[Adam12088]

Physicsfag here. I fucking love you smudboy.

[rhominus]

@smudboy

If they really were thinking of some kind of neutronium analogue, that would be brutalizising science. There is a reason why neutronium is found in neutron stars and generally nowhere else: Neutronisation requires gravity to overcome the force associated with the Pauli exclusion principle, which is only possible within large enough mass. So unless starships, let alone biotics, were hauling around entire neutron stars, that would be impossible and if they were, that would just be insane