Evidence for Creation - Ribosomes

http://newcreationist.blogspot.com/

Ribosomes produce proteins yet ribosomes are composed of proteins.

You need a ribosome to construct proteins.

You need proteins to construct a ribosome.

This presents a catch22 making the logical conclusion for creation.

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[imarchello]

What you're doing here is - you create a gap of information (which probably isn't there anyway, you've just failed to notice all of the relevant information)

After you create a gap - you put god in this gap...

This is called "the god of the gaps" argument...

And it's a foolish one - just because you don't know/understand something there is no reason to fill the gap with the supernatural / superstition..

It's pathetic to attemt to fill a gap of information by saying - "poof - magic man did it"

[hugenex2000]

@imarchello God created life. This is only a gap for you because you don't believe in God. It is you then who has a "gap" argument because you can't explain the origin of life but with every new scientific discovery the gap grows wider, not smaller. You disbelieve in the Creator of Life not because you can otherwise explain the origin of living organisms but rather in spite of the fact that you can't.

[nextghost]

@hugenex2000 Going from nothing to isolinear chips is one impossible giant leap because you need a computer just to build the theory behind those chips and nobody has any idea what a simpler computer migth have looked like. Therefore space aliens must have done it, even if nobody has ever seen a real space alien. And does the lack of records change anything on the fact that there were 9 other generations of simpler computers before? No. Irreducible complexity: busted.

[omri9325]

New research matrial has shown us that most of the ribosomes' s functional parts are mad from RNA.

which gives better odds for the abiogenesis theory and RNA world.

[kleenex3000]

Highly complex... yet to be understood how it COULD have evolved...

Place a Creator Principle for "irreducible complexity" -the Ribosome is, after the famous flagellum, another good example. BTW: Internal Parasitism is a very good example TOO!

You are entitled to call the unknown Mechanism of Evolution (that you btw "JUST" compress by replacing it through CREATION) [due to] a Creator Principle. You are not entitled to identify this Principle with the evolved, mutated Abrahamic G-D though.

[gregrutz]

It is complex, I don't understand it, so gawd dunit that way!

[paulspydar]

"The answer, Dr. Berg said, is that the active core of the ribosome is made of RNA. The protein seems to have been added later, which means the ribosome is “an RNA-based machine that evolved the ability to make proteins.”

If ribosomes depended on proteins to function, that would have been a paradox.

“This is a key point in evolution,” Dr. Berg said, “when RNA learned to make proteins.”"

Below is the link to the full article

source = wwwDOTnytimesDOTcom/2009/10/08­/science/08nobel.html

[paulspydar]

It may be the cell is like a human being?apart from organs & chemicals produced by our cells, the body made (information is in our genome) parasites like EColi that lives in intestines & gives us vitamin K.So the fist cell made was nothing like the ones known today, but eventually things like mitochondria,chloroplasts were absorbed by those cells.So our "cell ancestors" absorbed something like a ribosome,gave it the form it wants & tada! That cell might have been more efficient & evolved .

[collinnicholas1]

this is contingent on the fact that nothing else anywhere can create proteins

[theuncalledfor]

cdk007 actually answered this question in one of his videos.

He shows in vivid detail how early lifeforms (or is it proto-lifeforms?) could have survived without ribosomes, allowing them to evolve ribosomes later. With ribosomes, the older version was obsolete and vanished from all terran lifeforms.

[imarchello]

@hugenex2000

I would like to add:

Any unexplained phenomenon can technically be attributed to God's power and no complex natural explanations are needed, however, from the view of simplicity, a creator would have to be incredibly complex in the first place, more complex than the universe, so invariably, a naturalistic explanation can only be simpler. For example - Is the refrigerator empty because it is an alien artifact that makes food disappear or because my roommates were hungry last night?