Guns for Jesus

So - Jezuzfreek777 likes his guns. Who'd have seen that one coming?

Response to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBxsGY6Z0V4

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[M0THERKN0WSBEST]

On Stickham last night JF talked with enthusiasm about his upcoming tool ... er, I mean gun collection.

He wants to own one of each caliber, ( 38, 357, 44, 45 etc, ) a semi automatic rifle ... hmmn, not sure if he mentioned a shotgun!

What I found amusing was his passionate reference to the founding fathers & his right to bear arms ... including ( get this! ) an R.P.G.

Providing of course, they first went to the local rocket propelled grenade range, and learnt how to use it.

I kid you not!

[thatgaybloke]

I think that trying to reason with him is a bit like trying to explain quantum mechanics to a shoe.

[Mossy500A]

Turning the other cheek only applies to insults, not bodily harm.

[thatgaybloke]

Nice try at dodging that one - but that's not what it says in the scripture.

Matthew 5:39 "But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."

Striking someone is physical, not verbal, assault.

Next?

[Mossy500A]

Hitting someone on the right cheek during that time was meant to insult them. Spitting was the same way.

To offer your left cheek was putting that person on the same status level of the other. Hitting someone on the left cheek with a fist meant that they were equals, something the insulter did not believe.

[thatgaybloke]

Isn't it convenient how selective re-interpretation through historical "context" or whatever can make this nasty little collection of poorly thought out fairy tales mean whatever you want?

You can justify divorce, slavery, homophobia whatever you like and ignore the bits you don't like because they have to be taken in historical context.

The text in Matthew 5:39 is clear. Don't try and put your words in its place.

[Hereticbooks]

It is weird, isn't it gaybloke....that especially here in America, so many fundamentalist Christians are so incredibly "pro-gun." It's a weird, weird state of affairs.

[Gimmeabreakman]

Jezuzfreek777 is borderline well spoken. This fools a lot of people into thinking he is worth talking to. Just ignore him and eventually people will see him for what he is.

[truejustice1]

The Jews killed and protected thier land with the sword all the way till they got kick outta thier land by God..

They built each bullet ONE BY ONE by themselfs in 1948 underground in a laundry room patrolled by german soilders to take there land back!

We JUST SHOCK AND AWWED ALL OVER SADDAM AND HIS FOLLOWERS

and we are killing this very min while you sit your fat but at your comp...

You dont murder for your pride your only kill to survive, brothers and sisters..

[vonwolly2]

well I'm a southerner from Mississippi. I am pro-gun pro-second amendment. But I'm also extremely liberal. pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro union, pro-stem cell research. Don't really like the religious right. Not religious. The reason that they got rid of most of the guns in Great Britain. It is because the rich were scared the Communists were going to take over. after World War I. From what I understand.

[ConservativeAtheist]

Ok so I am very curious as to why you seem to be so focused on the Christians and in particularly the American Christians I think this may betray some bigotries on your part.

I mean is it not the Muslims that would put you to death for who you are?

Of course alot of the parts of the Bible that people object to are in the Old Testament~AKA~The Torah yet people like you seem to address those passages virtually exclusively with the Christians but wouldn't that be more on the Jews?

[ConservativeAtheist]

@ConservativeAtheist: Continued:

There are also countless stories of people saving themselves and others with the use of a gun. This is especially true with women who are at a severe physical disadvantage and as a result are more oftenly targeted for violent crimes both sexual and otherwise but with a gun they are more than capable of defending themselves. You say you would use a weapon in self defense but nothing beats a gun and if the intruder had a gun you would lose.

[ConservativeAtheist]

The idea that all intruders are simply there for property is asinine as is the statement that nothing good comes from a hand gun. There is a trial in the news currently where two men broke into a house and tortured the family including raping the mother and the children and then burning them to death tied to their beds. The husband was left bound in the basement and escaped but perhaps if he had been a gun owner this might not have occurred and in fact there are countless such stories.

[kyokogodai]

Luke 22:49-51 "When they which were about him saw what would follow, they said unto him, Lord, shall we smite with the sword? And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear. And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him." If Jesus was against weapons, why would He have allowed his apostles to carry them? It was because He knew they would need them for self-defense! Sword? Gun? No difference.

[Mossy500A]

I'm not. I am just using what historic knowledge I have on the subject. These text are worth studying to make sure they are not being bastardized.

I am not justifying any of those things. I hope you can get over whatever you don't like about Christianity.