Does the Triune God of the Bible exist? (Jamin Hubner vs Ben Wallis)

Agnostic Ben Wallis is known for being rather arrogant and mean-spirited in various Christian forums. In this debate though he comes off as a rank amateur in philosophy. Jamin Hubner easily bests and beats him.

Jamin Hubner, professor of theology at Jesus Bible Institute, author of Light Up the Darkness, editor of The Portable Presuppositionalist, theology graduate (Dordt college) and masters student at Reformed Theological Seminary, and Ben Wallis, a mathematics grad student and assistant (NIU), debate the question, Does the Triune God of the Bible exist?, on 2011 Jan 13 (8:30pm CST). Mr. Hubner is a presuppositionalist Christian apologist, and Mr. Wallis is an agnostic. Joshua Whipps moderates.

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Education

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• God
• Debate
• Agnostic
• Christian
• Jamin
• Hubner
• Ben
• Wallis
• Agnosticism
• Apologetics
• Presuppositionalism
• Cornelius
• Van
• Til
• Greg
• Bahnsen

[CBALLEN]

A person can only be wrong about a thing if objective truth exists and as every atheist/agnostic must admit that sometime in their lives they have been wrong about something.

[forthetruth101]

After an hour of listening to this debate,I find it really illogical for a person to be an agnostic.Mr.Hubner laid the arguments for his stand very well while Mr.Wallis poorly defined his reasoning.After the first rebuttal from Mr.Hubner it was very clear that Ben wasn't really sure of what he was talking about.He can't give clear answers to the objections raised by his opponent. I shall continue listening and finishing the whole debate.This is a brilliant way of defining or simplifying belief

[Cougar139tweak]

@Onetruthrgv So before Christianity there were no morals? If you say this were do you get your morals from if it is indeed from christianity?

[Onetruthrgv]

@Samuria11 oh, well thanks

[Samuria11]

@Onetruthrgv Nope, I don't think that's possible. I was just letting you know the method by which we determine whether something is good or evil.

[Onetruthrgv]

@Samuria11 So are you admitting to an objective moral?

[Samuria11]

@Onetruthrgv We typically uses a rather simple method of determining what is evil. If an action is causing suffering it is considered evil.

[YahwehtheLORD]

I'm glad i'm Christian! I love all people and I hope Ben finds his way back to Christ who loves us. Brilliant debate.

[Onetruthrgv]

@MrMaika77 Well ben has a point, How can an atheist say x is objectively immoral when atheist believe morals are subjective? The atheist has no basis to account for his morals, now that is not to say an atheist cannot be moral (Courtesy of Christianity) but rather just just cannot account for x is x moral or immoral.