Toyota Recall - Event Data Recorder EDR how it will prove "human error"

Facing millions in lawsuits Mark finds out Toyota has been using "crash data recorders" (CDR) commonly known as "black boxes" or "Event Data Recorders" (EDR) on the recalled cars. Its tucked under the dash and out of sight. You'll never even know its there until you go to court and Toyota wants to inspect your car. If your car is in a crash this little computer (that also controls the air bags) will tell the Judge and jury if you had your foot on the accelerator, if it was on the brake pedal, how fast you were driving and if you had your seat belt done up. I hope your lawyer has made you aware of this very convincing piece of evidence. It's something you should know.

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[bddc201]

Event data recorders are designed almost exclusively for the purpose of evading manufacturer liability. They will NOT tell you if your foot was on the brake, only if the switch signaled to the recorder that it was being activated. Manufacturers love these things because they appear to be concrete evidence, almost like DNA to a jury. EDR's are only one component in a multi-faceted system, and just as fallible as any man-made device.

[carquestions]

@bddc201 The point is that MSM needs to do some credible checking and provide full disclosure not just wip up hysteria like they did. If they had talked about EDR's in the first story about SUA they would have reduced the amount of complaints instead of adding to them

[hubie2100]

u no u can add or take data for a car black box

[carquestions]

@hubie2100 Practically speaking you can't. The equipment and software needed to do what you are suggesting is simply not available needed to most mechanics or investigators.

[emforty2]

how about the other car computer ?

the human brain computer thats prone to lock up and fail

yes the drivers brain is a computer and its prone to failure and forget neutral will put a car to stop or the brake pedal instead of the acc pedal STOPS THE CAR

[carquestions]

@emforty2 You couldn't be more right - after 2000 investigations since February - everyone has been driver error - NHTSA confirmed

[pielover8888]

ZOMG FLOATING HEAD NOOOO!!!

[jon1444208]

Depending on how the signals from the accelerator and brake pedal units are generated, transmitted, and received by the ECU, the EDR will only confirm what signals the controller was responding to. It's a little like a lawyer asking a whitness, "What color was the light when it turned green?"

I agree that probably most, if not all, of the problems involved human error; however the use of the EDR to accurately reflect the physical events surrounding a problem needs to be carefully examined.

[carquestions]

@WILLTHEWGMAN His brother inlaw in the back seat made the call - read the link I sent you there is 29 pages to it. Read the about the witness Frank Bernard, he borrowed the car 3 days before and he had a problem - a stuck gas pedal - he managed to stop the car and report it to the dealer - unfortunately the dealer didn't remove the mat

[carquestions]

@WILLTHEWGMAN Their not hiding the results - they made public press releases about their findings - NHTSA was with them at each investigation so there is no suggestion of hiding anything. In NY the police actually video taped them during the investigation - they are being watched very closely