Fingerprints of God

Fingerprints of God. Frank Turek looks at the Anthropic Principle and numerous cosmological evidences for a Creator God. Go to http://www.CrossExamined.org for more compelling stuff!

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[Dooba101]

I guess no one saw how inefficient it is to create billions of planets and only have one actually provide the ability to produce life. Also note, the guy is all powerful, all knowing, and has an issue with running the universe. God, by his own assertions, is like a genie, a genie that gives no fucks about hypocritical teachings, or recording its words more permanently than in a book changed multiple times over the years. This isn't cross examination, it is blatant lies.

[phibersunos]

wow.. idiots..

[Requiemxtoxinnocence]

@OnyxMass How can god create time?  How does one create matter and energy? These are questions that will need to be answered before a god can become something more than a hypothesis. Furthermore the anthropic principle is really sketchy, considering we don't know what other reasons there could be for a universe. The universe is also quite hostile to life, yet quite hospitable to the destructive forces that eradicate life.

[OnyxMass]

@Requiemxtoxinnocence I'm saying that god created time,space and matter as well as the anthropic principals. The anthropic principals are designed in a way that they can be exchanged/rearranged/bent with/to new principals if it suits God's needs. As far as the chaotic state is concerned. Check out the Borde Guth Vilenkin Theorem on inflationary space times.

[Requiemxtoxinnocence]

@OnyxMass From your suggestion then that would mean that the universes parts were already there and god simply put them into a different state, this is different than creating from nothing. But I don't see why the universe couldn't simply be in a chaotic state until it formed into what it is now and then being the first uncaused cause. But your analogy is understandable.

[OnyxMass]

@Requiemxtoxinnocence I don't see a problem with God being limited. Though fine tuning isn't a limitation. The best explanation I can think of (right now) for how fine tuning works is as follows. Say your holding water in your hands. Since, the water is being contained within your hand it doesn't fall to the ground. But, it can still be dropped, shaken, (to make waves) among other things. The norm of the water not falling out is only because it is being held in place.

[Requiemxtoxinnocence]

@OnyxMass It's a limitation to god, by saying something is fine tuned you then put specific laws and sciences as a limitation to how one can create and further bind them to him making him not all powerful. Our galaxy is actually on a head on collision with the Andromeda galaxy, so we're screwed no matter what and our sun will burn us long before that. Some religious people actually pose that god will stop the heat death which I find a bit odd.

[OnyxMass]

@Requiemxtoxinnocence He's insinuating that God created the anthropic principals and they limit the creation, not God. (e.g. the gravitational constant is God's design.) As far as the other galaxies are concerned, the second law of thermal dynamics would cause our galaxy to be much more short lived. (that is to say, without the thermal bumper in the finite past our galaxy would be much closer to heat death. Since the universe is ever expanding.)

[Requiemxtoxinnocence]

He does realize fine tuning limits how god can create a universe to allow life meaning he is not all powerful and has to follow certain laws just to create things, and also if you change the four forces all at once you can create a universe. The fine tuning argument just shows that god is not all powerful, and the anthropic principle is basing the whole of the universe on life when you could take out all the galaxies and stars and the universe would be much the same.

[abbielayla]

@Aphex217Twin You're right: it SEEMS to be so.