Horse Racing 1991 King George VI Chase Desert Orchid final race

Desert Orchid final race

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[cdheale]

No horse that wins 3 gold cups and a king george is a joke..whatever the quality of opposition

[bluemanc43]

@cdheale But thats the modern problem yes they can because of training advancements they can be got fully fit at home so no pressure is placed on them on the track as would have been in the past. See You Then set the standard in the mid 80's traina fragile champion for the day thats what he was known as See You When? but it worked. Best Mate wasnt fragile but couldnt cope with races close together and certainly not ones that would put him under pressure apart from the Gold Cup.

[cdheale]

But Dessie was beaten twice at Sandown. PN saw what Best Mate achieved and took the view that because of Kauto's lighter athletic build he would not wear him out in handicaps. He was unafraid to run Denman in handicaps because he had the robust build of an old fashioned chaser. Incidentally Denman won his 2 hennessys off 161 and 174 ..Kauto got beat a length by Monets Garden, ( finishing 20 lengths clear of Exotic Dancer ) off a mark of 179 so his handicap performance was perfectly respectable

[bluemanc43]

@cdheale Best Mate is a joke he beat nothing of note in virtually any race yet is a great because he won 3 Gold Cups not to me he aint. I gave far more respect to Kauto in losing to Monets Garden than I ever had previously because he lost to a top class horse narrowly proving how highly he was rated may be correct but its the only 1 that you can rate where as Dessie did it season after season.

[bluemanc43]

@cdheale Difference between Dessie and Kauto for me is Dessie raced in Grade 1 Company and top class handicaps over hurdles and fences for 8 seasons he also had 30 more races than Kauto yet all we hear is Kautos longivity, Oh please level weight contests dont bottom top class chasers as 9 times out of 10 they race inferior fields and like i told somebody else Beef or Salmon won 10 Grade 1s all in Ireland is he a legend???

[cdheale]

Each will have their fans ..and they are both true greats..but i have seen both Dessie and Kauto in the flesh and my own view is that KS is the more versatile, particularly because of his ability to win on both right handed and left handed tracks. It does not denigrate him merely because he didn't attempt a Whitbread or Hennessy. Denman was his equal and superior at Cheltenham but as a galloper rather than a speed horse he could not act at Aintree or kempton nor win a Tingle Creek

[bluemanc43]

@cdheale Kauto is virtually equally as good either way round Denman was even worse affected than Dessie in his aversion but Denman was certainly the better horse round Cheltenham than either Kauto or Dessie. Denman I agree wasnt versitile like Kauto or Dessie and dont forget if the Tingle Creek was still a handicap as it was in Dessies day Kauto wouldnt have even lined up never mind won it.

[aquamarineeyes]

Watching this race after so long has made my eyes fill with tears of joy at the reception the crowd gave Dessie when he came home safe n sound. The commentator was more interested in Dessie than the eventual winner and that says a lot about the old boy! Dessie you are sadly sadly missed. R.I.P.

[MeMeMeMeMeMeMeMeAndU]

How many well backed horses get a reception like that after they've just got beat? Not many i'm sure. Dessie was simply a joy to watch and anyone who really loves horse racing & who was around to watch him race should thank their lucky stars that they got to see a real champ.

[Duszki]

I don't even think the punters that won were that bothered, just the fact that after his fall, he came safe...

[cdheale]

enjoyed our debate bm43..and loved your videos.have posted a comment on your You Tube channel thread but its queued for approval

[bluemanc43]

@cdheale Both are great horses Kauto was lucky enough to have a nemesis his equal and for me better in Denman and cant even claim to be the top rated performer of his time Master Minded has been rated higher and currently Big Bucks has a higher rating. Just because a horse wins level weight races framed for them and no other dont make them the best ever after all Golden Miller won 5 Gold Cups and a Grand National each are legends of their time and we enjoy them while we can.