Dosing MMS: When 28% is NOT 28%

The FDA warning on MMS (the Miracle Mineral Supplement) suggests that ingesting the 28% sodium chlorite solution is dangerous, and it is. However, used as outlined, MMS is NOT at a 28% concentration. Adam Abraham demonstrates the difference.

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Science & Technology

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• MMS
• Jim Humble
• chlorine dioxide
• citric acid
• alternative health
• cancer
• FDA

[SmalltimR]

Hmmm I'm really not sure about the chemistry proposed i this video. And maybe I'm completely wrong in thinking this, but if we considered 3 drops of MMS equates XX mg's of sodium chlorite. Then in reality, no matter how much dilution we add, that initial amount of sodium chlorite is still be entering the body. Likewise... if we take XX drops of cyanide(for example), and dilute that in water, then that dosage would still effectively kill you would it not?

[phaelosopher]

@SmalltimR -- No. By that logic, the amount of chlorine that is used to treat your municipal water would kill you if taken directly. In addition, if the scenario that you describe were true, then people would be dying from using MMS. Instead, many are experiencing measurable improvements.

[SmalltimR]

@phaelosopher

Since we only drink a portion of the municipal water in contrast to the MMS mixture I don't think that illustration works. Though if we did then we would most certainly die as a result. As for people dying from MMS, I'm not disputing the benefits of the product. Though I do believe the reasoning applied in the the video is wrong. IOW. since the effects of Acidified Sodium Chlorite are measured against body mass, dilution would have no impact on dosage.

[phaelosopher]

@SmalltimR -- as long as we're clear that it is your BELIEF... you're free to BELIEVE anything you want. Results come from experience, and they help people to KNOW. I KNOW that MMS *can be* very helpful, but even it isn't always the best answer. However, it is most often a FAR BETTER, and more BENIGN than the chemicals that are being routinely prescribed to millions of people each day... antibacterials, antivirals, and more... Yet you don't seem to have a problem with that.

[SmalltimR]

@phaelosopher

I'm not sure how personal beliefs came into the picture, though I wanted to ask if you had the opportunity to consider the fact that the amount of substances are not affected by dilution where total absorption is concerned? - I'm not trying to give you a hard time with this, though I do believe its worth clarifying this given that others could follow apply this method in other applications which could be dangerous.

[phaelosopher]

@SmalltimR -- In the absence of first-hand knowledge, beliefs rule, even though they may not be true. I find it curious that you BELIEVE that the amount of sodium chlorite that one takes might NOT be affected by the dilution/strength. Also, why presume harm with MMS when so many have reported beneficial results, but presume a benefit with drugs when so many have experienced harm? You think the disease is really the harmful agent, so that the drugs can't be responsible or contributory?

[memillanf]

thank you very much!!

[Wizzbangify]

The differance between PURE sodium chlorite and Chlorine dioxide is sodium chlorite in its state does not process in the human body the way Chlorine dioxide thats where the flaw in the sodium chlorite FDA scare is. If you mix sodium chlorite and vitamin c and water it will literally burn if not explode so sodium chlorite mixed with differant chemicals reacts differantly.

[Wizzbangify]

When I was in The army in Hondoras we had a water shortage do to very bad weather no trucks moving. We used Clorox to decontaminate water 15 drops per gallon and let it sit for a few hours. We did this for about 3 weeks no harm to any of us unfortunately 2 months later I came down with Malaria and it was so bad I feel the affects to this day 20ish years later. If MMS can kill Malaria the risk is well worth the outcome. The need to test it on malaria

[SmalltimR]

@phaelosopher

The only issue that I've brought -up to date was with the potentially risks associated with people thinking they can make MMS amounts safe by adding or mixing it down(w/juice water etc). And so I think its very important that videos such as this one are very clear on what's-what in terms of chemical safety for human consumption For example... people need to know that the when they mix MMS for consumption, that the initial amount(mg dropped) will not change with dilution.

[SmalltimR]

@phaelosopher

On the issue of dilution, the chemistry is simple. Dilution works so long as we draw from the diluted product. ie. if we cut a 3 drop solution of 28% in half, and draw three drops from our dilution, then we end-up with an 11% solution. However... since chemical safety is *almost always based on amount of substance, then the dilution methods shown in the video are invalid. And that's because the initial amount(volume or weight) of NaC1O2 remains the same in total consumption.

[SmalltimR]

@phaelosopher

The problem with the presentation as far as I can see, is that it could mislead people into thinking that they can dilute a given quantity of MMS into a harmless mixture(.00025%) by adding water or juice and drinking it. However... this is not the case at all as the initial amount of substance will remain the same.

UNLESS... you're presenting safety levels based on oxidation. Which would make sense, though I didn't get that from the video.

[SmalltimR]

@phaelosopher

Actually, I never questioned the effects of dilution. What I questioned is why you're presenting dilution factors when MMS safety is based on substance amounts. In other words, ie. the safety threshold for human consumption of Acidified Sodium Chlorite is established in mg per body weight(mg/BW) which does not change in dilution with total consumption. IOW. if you have .5mg of 28% MMS(for example) and dilute that in 1 liter of water and drink it. You will still ingest .5mg of MMS