Maddow on GOP Hypocrisy over Miranda Rights

Maddow on GOP Hypocrisy over Miranda Rights [2/15/2010]

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News & Politics

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• miranda
• rights

[newmac]

Boy its a good thing Yemen doesn't have any oil or we might invade them...

[RealCaptainAmerica]

This was great. Thank you Rachel!

[davids2244]

And the military does a great job in a trail situation.

[davids2244]

I can care less honestly what the rest of the world thinks of us, half don't like us already because of the prosperity we have. What I do care about is that I want these guys either dead or behind bars with as little cost and as little threat to the civilian population as possible. We owe the world nothing, if anything they owe us, I know that it is arrogant thinking but if you look at history it is true. War is never going to be pretty, and we need to face this as a fact..

[davids2244]

@ReliableInsider I would agree, but civillian law is different in rules on what can be used in prosecution. Many things can be used in a tribunal compared to civillian. I agree I think our judges are very capable, but I also know as in the blind sheak we are putting them in bigger harms way to serious threats by these peoples supporters, not to include the said population of the city itself. We also do not want a voice to the world in civillian courts for these guys to spout their BS

[maryelizabethweston]

The Republican talking point is the name Miranda. Reason is not involved in their argument. It's the same idea as calling hemp marijuana: make it sound foreign, alien to the base of xenophobic morons. It's no accident that every single one of the Republicans accent the name Miranda when they voice their faux outrage. Establishing that "foreign" quality is their objective. For all Rachel's good intentions, she is only helping them make their one and only point by repeating it with them.

[ReliableInsider]

My assumption is that our federal judiciary is biased against deranged mass-murdering terrorists, too, but they deal with murderers all the time and they can be professional.

[ReliableInsider]

And if terrorism is going to exist from now on as the Bush administration claimed, then we'd better start teaching our justice system how to handle it.

We need a system for distinguishing between those who are guilty or Nuremberg-level crimes against humanity and those who are completely innocent.

We need a process for putting Adolph Hitler and Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden behind bars forever.

A process that has credibility.

In the Western world, that's called a trial.

[ReliableInsider]

If that's true, then it sounds as though a conviction achieve through a military tribunal would have much less credibility.

People will assume that a military tribunal is hopelessly biased. I think I'd make that assumption myself. We're at war after all.

If America wants to go back to being an example to the world after all the damage done to our reputation by Bush, our normal justice system is the way to go.

[davids2244]

but they stay in prison till the war is over with no trail, and according to Geneva a combatant non uniformed is considered a spy and can be executed on the battlefield..

[davids2244]

don't think they will but they do have a whole different set of laws and premisable evidence is a big one, surpressing national security to the defedent would be another than a military tribunal