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John Piper and Tim Keller confess they have learned that God-centered and Gospel-centered need each other to be more biblical

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  • Very helpful... I know that honey is sweet, and I know that I've tasted it, but I feel lately as if I've forgotten what it tastes like...

  • @AtheisticHappiness Have you read the gospel? They aren't really talking about legends or heresy of any type here. These are things that you as a human can learn from, morals. I know atheists who revere Jesus as a great moral teacher, but why do you write it off? I really encourage you to research it more. Tearing your fellow humans down is not progress. I think that understanding what Christians believe and that it does make sense if you are willing to listen to it is a great world view. Reply?

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  • The truth that most exalts God in salvation is that Christ ACCOMPLISHED salvation. "For by one offering HE HATH perfected forever them that are sanctified." (Heb 10:14) "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of ONE shall many be made righteous." (Rom 5:19) Piper talks a lot about GLORIFYING GOD - yet by making faith a condition of the covenant, they undermine His sovereign majesty. Faith is a provision of the covenant (Gal 5:22), not a condition.

  • Could we say that God-centeredness is the theory and Gospel-centredness is the practical? Since theory cannot be made relevent without practical and practical cannot be done better without theory, they need each other?

  • @AtheisticHappiness If they are wasting their time just talking about it then why are you _watching_ them talk about it :P eheh

    also do you mean hearsay?

  • Adults wasting their time sitting around talking about legends and heresy.

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