Re: Drugs and God

The Socratic Method, eh? Don't forget Socrates and Plato were initiated into the Eleusinian Mysteries by drinking the Kykeon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries#Entheogenic_theories

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[ThePointlessPoint]

"If you don't think drugs have done good things for us, then take all of your records, tapes and CD's and burn them."

--Bill Hicks

What's more spiritual than music?

[TWITfromURANUS]

Yes. To think that you can only be 'truly spiritual' if you adhere to some kind of notion of an 'unfettered intellectual process' is to do just that; reduce it. & in doing so, we miss the point entirely -- for me anyway. IE: When we can explain what 'spiritual' means, it could well be far from that ... if not its antithesis.

Drugs are as relevant as we make them ... just like everything else.

"Matter is spirit named." ~A.W.Watts

[lilKING272]

all of you sound rediculous trying to use a bigger vocabulary to sound less "retarded." you don't know what the words mean. stop using them. molecular species? really? It is good that people are trying to sound smarter but please make sure you know what youre even saying

[ktorch]

I cannot bring myself to believe in spirits. There are good people and bad people but they my have a brain chemical imbalance, but nothing is controlled by spirits. You will go around in circles over and over again trying to explain, define a spirit and you will never find a satisfactory answer. A belief in spirits will take you into a million different directions each person with different answers.

[leelwj]

you are beautiful

[seigneurvoland666]

matt growin the sole patch lol! looks g00d man

[shuddhatattva]

i like what you say about changing the filter. the brain really is just a filter for the consciousness and psychedelics change the filtering process. i agree with everything you say.

[andychaiwallah]

Thanks. I too have experimented with hallucinogenics; they were an initial opening which led me to a meditative spiritual practice. I think the main drawback with drugs in the context of a spiritual practice is they create a subtle attachment to experiences which are deemed to be 'spiritual' which one later tries to recreate or return to. All experiences are experiences of spirit or buddhanature. Why search consciousness through altering consciousness? This very moment is the awakened state.

[citricsystemz]

through my uses of hallucinogenics I have had spiritual revelations which I believe have come at the cost of my identity,but that I have also learned of something greater than myself.

PM me if you would like to know my experiences.

[gombet]

mumbo-jumbo is in the minds of unlearned individuals who refuse to educate and re-educate themselves in more ways than one. It's clear you have your opinion and that's all you care about. Look beyond the envelope and you just might see something beyond your current mind state.

[36stylesofdanger]

@adorianvlad I think he addresses these concerns although he doesn't emphasize them. His point was that these drugs, used in a proper context (read: not abusively), can create enlightening spiritual experiences.

[UncannyRicardo]

Matt PLEASE MAN, I really do need your wisdom on this video.

watch?v=WsPn5dXfTvA

This guy has given simingly accurate points as to why consciousness is materalistic. So I would like for you and the other spiritual people on Utube to refute this guy.