People & Power - The Dalai Lama: The devil within - Sept 30 Part 1

The Dalai Lama has imposed a ban on the worship of the 500 year old deity Shugden. This has created divisions among the Tibetans living in India, where Shugden worshippers are being ostracized from their community in the name of the Dalai Lama.

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[shaktinah]

@MsColdCanada - The Council voted unanimously because, as the council guy said, they don't believe that the Dalai Lama is human. They think he's the reincarnation of Avalokiteshvara, the Bodhisattva of Compassion. So they automatically assume that anything he says is true. As for it being a "democracy," who got to vote?! Clearly the devotees of Shugden did not get to vote. Who makes up the Council? How did they get those positions?

[floatinghippos]

@tselhaful If you look at what he did in 1996 he unilaterally switched from trying to gain an independent Tibet, to simply "autonomy" which angered many Tibetan people (who he did not consult by the way), especially the Tibetan Youth Movement at the time. Also, your confusing politics with religion. The issue of Dorje Shugden is a Religious one, the issue of a free Tibet is a political one. This is the DL's big dilemma, he's trying to be both a spiritual AND political leader...BIG mistake.

[prchecker]

you have some great stuff here

[PerilocutionAZ09]

"I'm not a person who just blindly believes someone. I believe someone who is telling the truth."

Right. Because people who DO just blindly believe someone think that that person's always wrong.

[jbearden]

@marksmanning That would be true IF THIS WERE A PHILOSOPHY COURSE 101. However, it's actual people, so get your head out of your ass, please.

[TheCountrygirl59]

who the hell said said people in india no longer believe in dalai lama.. we worship dalai lama as out god king..

[SauIan]

@pemagolok

Well put Pemala.

[CT2507]

@floatinghippos originaly politics and religion were not seperated. and there is no real reason why politics and religion should ever be.

true religion encompases everything, even finances and medicine. if it cant its not realy useful.

if there are places in society where religion can not move, then u create oposites and adversaries, and finaly enemies of religion.

true religion is about unity and complete understanding in ALL fields.

the problem here is that Dalai lama is a fake!

[pemagolok]

what dalai lama saying is that if you are worshiping this deity then don't come to my teachings so the problem is very simple, those worship this deity seeing daiai lama is devil and lier so then why still come to the teachings as they are seeing him as devil and lier. they can stay their side and keeping praying this deity so then there is no problem.

[marksmanning]

The woman in the shop says: 'I'm not a person who just blindly believes someone.....I believe someone who is telling the truth....Here Dalai Lama always tells the truth'.

I'm no logician, but isn't this a contradiction or something?

.... seems like her blind faith makes her oblivious to the blindness of her faith. Her faith in a human being is shutting her off from the wisdom of Buddhas teachings.

[sinzin911]

as having bit of knowledge about this subject, let me mention some points

1.Buddhism at core is a individual behavioral and decipiline religion rather than a god/deity worship.

2.Dalai Lama never opposed worshiping individually. he just doesn't want anything to do with this particular deity.

3.The reason tibetans don't like the followers is that they tend to be violent. deity followers killed 3 outspoken critics in 1997. if you commit murder, even having living Buddha as teacher, wont matter.