Military Time: Obama--contractors in security-force

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Military Times: Editorial board with Sen. Obama

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[MoneyIsSilver]

Interesting video in that Obama candidly admits what nations actually are: a monopoly on violence.

[EndGovtTyranny]

Nation states are a monopoly on violence. Obama got that right. And the voters legitimize this violence when they cast their ballots.

[FreedomZealot]

Augustine said it best, long ago: What sets a "government" apart from a common robber band is not the repudiation of violence, but the attainment of impunity. Justice being taken away, a government is nothing but a "vast robbery," as he put it.

On this theme it's useful to point out that the Second Amendment is a plenary repudiation of the idea that government has a monopoly on force or violence.

[Tris10]

@Tris10 so many misquotes and lies so fucking dishonest.

[Zen5012]

@Tris10

Now, does it mean its impossible? Certainly not. But like I said earlier, what you would end up with is just another Government. Why not take the fucking chance to BE FREE?

You see, they are scare stories. Same as when someone who "isn't 100% pro-state" says to a Statist - we shouldn't have x-program. Statist replies - oh, but poor people will die in the street.

It's a scare story. There are plenty of alternate scenarios to reason through but, when you don't, it's a scare story.

[Zen5012]

@Tris10

And no, they didn't take over. Honestly, look deeper into the situation.

No one has "taken over". There are disparate groups that, while trying to gain ultimate control, have been UNABLE TO.

interesting, isn't it? That these "warlords/militia" were unable to just jump in and seize power?

Perhaps the point is, once given the chance, people will refuse those who attempt to subjugate them.

[Zen5012]

@Tris10

You're confusing absolutes and non-absolutes.

The situation in Somalia is its own character. Under the state, the militia groups already existed. Many were simply enforcement arms OF the state. They didn't arise from nothing to fill a vacuum, they already existed.

Now, what you're missing is this important statement - "the attempted reestablishment of government in Somalia"

The problem is arising from some attempting to reinstate what the people previously refused.

[Zen5012]

@Tris10

It's not my thesis champ. It's a viable collection of data used to support the conclusion that people are better off after the collapse of the state.

Again, learn to separate data and opinions. It's very important, especially when listening to the Government.

[Zen5012]

@Tris10

Problem is - the initiation of violence IS wrong. You cannot logically justify it on any grounds. I welcome the attempt though.