Masahiko Kimura and Kanae Hirata-Hadaka Jime Variations
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@Jimmynable if you watch the fight you see that gracie is hard to submit on the ground, but kimura submits him with what is now called, a kimura.
to me the most amazing part was how kimura dominated gracie on his feet, gracie got creamed by multiple judo throws to which the only defense he had was rigging the event by making the floor extra padded
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DON'T KISS HIM OLD MAN .....
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@billysue2 I don't know why ppl think Helio was the same weight when he was in his 80s and 90s when he grappled Kimura. There was only 5kg or 11lb difference and Kimura was only 4 yrs younger. The really sad thing is Helio to my knowledge never made these excuses and even admitted Kimura choke him unconscious early in the match but he came round when he released the choke. Maximum respect for both, two legends like there will prob never be again, RIP.
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@fdumitr Sode Guruma Jime (sleeve wheel choke).
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@ironflag2 YES! Great Comment!
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@swiftlessons Your words are really rational. They were both superior fighters, and it's absolutely improper to conclude bjj is "worse" than judo, just considering this match. No man on Earth could defeat Kimura, and Helio knew that. The idea was not to win the fight, but to show how a single man developed a wonderful technique. Both Kimura and Helio Gracie (a man who I had the great honor to meet personally in Rio de Janeiro) were giants in their arts.
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What's the name of the second choke? In bjj is Ezekiel but I would like to know its name in judo.
I use it with great success in my gym usually when I'm in someone's guard...it's a tricky one.
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Why does this Kimura/Helio debate still go on? They we're both great men, great teachers and revolutionaries in their respective disciplines. Kimura thought very highly of Helio's technique, and knew that he was onto something. Helio's loss to Kimura does not discredit BJJ, its just part of the story...and look how far it has come since that fight! Love my Judo, Love Jiu Jitsu!
Thank you for your help Kmiura sensei!
we will never forget you for as long as we the judo nation are here
thank you for defeating Helio Gracie
judopathoftruth 2 years ago 30
No Kimura before Kimura; no Kimura after Kimura
theblink182skater 2 years ago 19