John Passmore on Hume: Section 5
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@amcd981 I agree... Dawkins could do with a bit of Hume....
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Loved this, I'll be putting the audio on my mp3 player, thank you. I will also add that Richard Dawkins and other arbitrary celebrity thinkers should be taking notes to this, especially regarding the point made here 03:00
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nevertheless i thank thee for this highly interesting talk
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@memoryburn7 i don't feel like you've paid much attention to my last comment. i'm not manifesting skepticism. i'm not even arguing that wellbeing is the right choice. i'm simply stating the fact that it is a *choice*. of course it is, like descriptive claims as you pointed out, dependent on more fundamental values but i dissagree that it would logically lead to ultimate skepticism. i can't go deeper into this on a count of comment space so if you wish to continue the discusion please PM me. bye.
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@fede2 this same skepticism could be applied with equal force to natural facts as well. in order to say that "water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen" you must make the choice to value evidence and reason and parsimony and consistency. asking "who's to say that wellbeing is the right choice?" is equivalent to asking "why should we value evidence?" we've hit philosophical bedrock with the shovel of a stupid question, to quote a person smarter than myself.
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@fede2 this type of skepticism could be applied with the same force to natural facts as well. it's as obvious that you should choose not to get AIDS as it is that "this table is in front of me". all statements about natural facts require values too. if i say that "water is two parts hydrogen and one part oxygen", i've chosen to value evidence and reason and parsimony and consistency. anyways it's been fun debating with you, i think we've hit the limit.
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@memoryburn7 it doesn't matter if everyone in the world has the same stadards of evauation. logically speaking, prescriptive moral claims are relative to human existence, not natural facts. natural facts are at best useful data for deliberation. but not all facts are a no-brainer, like the one in question, when it comes to existence itself, yeah. avoiding aids seems like an easy case. but, again, this is relative to the choice of living. a *good* choice, mind you, but a *choice* non the less.
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@fede2 we don't need to include the "if" since every person who's opinion is worthwhile wants to increase their wellbeing and avoid AIDS. everyones motive is the same, so like a good mathematician the identical base motives of everyone (wellbeing) cancel out and are unimportant.
Not really. He usually asks them if they agree with his conclusions - and they usually do. Magee is an expert in philosphy himself and could easily be in the other end of the couch, if he didn't happen to be the host.
petkragh 2 years ago 12
I loved that chat. Made me feel warm all over.
seanwal111111 3 years ago 11