Hardifire: Mark Roberts, Arthur Scheuerman discuss 9/11

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News & Politics

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• 9/11
• inside job
• controlled demolition
• hardfire
• david chandler
• richard gage

[sofaking3000]

it's almost impossible to even try to explain how awesomely devoid of any brain activity these assholes are.. in fact there is only one thing in this universe that will top it, and that is how fake and self important they are.. it truly sickens me, it's such a shame we have to share our planet with such utter retards.. i don't know if you've seen the end of "the mist" but i really hope it will happen to you.. and then maybe die of aids after you have been anally raped..

[AlienEntity1]

@sofaking3000 That is one of the most vicious, hurtful things I've ever read. Wonder never cease how utterly devoid of humanity some people (like you) are.

You're one step away from making death threats. Really. Not that I'm surprised, because a lot of truthers are borderline personalities just waiting to hurt someone. That's one of the reasons your 'movement' is dying...

Very, very sad. I hope you get well in future. Needless to say you're blocked.

[ostormer]

The naïve 'trufers' are blood sucking vampires. The nature and philosophy of their argument is utterly devoid of fact, and wrought with conjecture and slander. Not one attempt is made to justify or fully explain even one theory. Instead, like a child commenting on an adult discussion, they just superficially jump from topic to topic, vandalizing logic and truth with non-contextual clips as they go. They are Holocaust deniers under a different name.

[bcbobbie]

I was a "truther". When Charlie Veitch changed his mind I, rather than accusing him of being an agent, listened to what he had to say. I then started watching some of Mark Roberts stuff. It is like a cult. You get so emotional tied to it that you only seek info that confirms your belief and you find a way to dismiss opposing info. I feel like I am free now.

[tyleryesta1]

Naturally the common people don’t want war. But the leaders of a country determine policy, and it’s a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, fascist dictatorship, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. All you do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country. -Nazi Hermann Goering

[AlienEntity1]

@dreamdiction Fallacy alert 'Even if only one part of the 9/11 story is a lie, then the WHOLE 9/11 STORY is a LIE'

Turning the tables on you, 'Even if only one part of the 9/11 Truth allegations are wrong, then ALL the allegations are wrong'.

Of course it's an asinine statement, either way. ;)

[AlienEntity1]

@bd886 No, again they were 1 micron across. Says it right there in the paper. But the iron was .1 microns (100nm), we've already been over this. That's expected in modern paints. Please stop arguing against established facts!

Zinc? Laclede did not contain zinc. That's irrelevant. Tnemec primer did. But also 2 chips did contain zinc. Check the paper.

[AlienEntity1]

@AlienEntity1 Remember, in order to react, the Fe and Al must be closely bound. They are not in the chips, because most of the layer is C (binder).

But in a paint, the binder keeps the materials spread out, so they don't pool together. That's how paints work, you see.

But nanothermite or thermite does not work that way. It cannot, no matter what you insist upon.

[AlienEntity1]

@bd886 Laclede Standard Steel Joist paint, used in the WTC steel:

'Iron oxide 55 %

Aluminum Silicate 41 %

Strontium Chromate 4 '

That's just the pigment, not the vehicle. The proportions are roughly the same as the 2.6% and 1.6% found in the chips (1.6x vs 1.34x)

In addition, Harrit's graphs show ' Small peaks of strontium and chromium are visible and marked there' (Ivan Kminek). So the material is perfectly consistent with a known paint. Hmmm.... must be an explosive! LOL

[AlienEntity1]

@bd886 Aluminosilicates are commonly used in paints, have the same structure (plate-like) as the Jones chips and the same size - 1000 nm long.

You forgot about the actual dimensions, and picked just one number which was misleading. If I lay a ruler flat it's still 12 inches long. If I claim the ruler is only 1/4 inch long, that would be very, very wrong. But that's what you're doing, essentially.

And at 1.6%, there's not much Al!!!! Not thermite.

[AlienEntity1]

@bd886 Actually you missed something when you quoted the size - also you gave no page reference. 'The results indicate that the small particles with very high BSE intensity (brightness) are consistently 100 nm in size and have a faceted appearance.' 100nm is .1 microns, which is exactly the size range as given by Kminek.

Further, the plate-like particles are largely Aluminosilicates and are

'40 nm thick and up to about 1 micron across'. So the actual size is 1 micron! 1000 nm!!

ie Kaolin

[AlienEntity1]

@bd886 Jones et al. did not perform the tests to determine whether Al was elemental or not. Common sources of Al are 'alumina (aluminum hydrate or transparent white), chalk (calcium carbonate or calcium sulfate), china clay(hydrated aluminum silicate or kaolin) oralum (aluminum potassium sulfate, used to lake pigments since the Roman era'. (article on paint additives and pigments).

The chips contain small amount of Al,kaolin (aluminum silicate) can supply this, and is commonly used in paints