Kong Hee ! Whom are this cheap grace preachers? Part 2

Kong Hee seminarium på Livets Ord 28-29 mars 2006. Förvränger Kong Hee vad nådförkunnarna säger? En pastor i Singapore säger si och så får vi höra. Vem talar han om?
Några nämner Joseph Prince. Vi som har hört Prince vet att detta inte är så han lägger ut skrifterna.

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[unitedontherock]

Stop? What do you mean MultiSuperdarren?

[phinejohn]

Dear believers, DO NOT LET OUR HEART BE TROUBLED by other's doings! God is the same yesterday, today & tomorrow. It is God's GRACE that Ps. Kong Hee is still able to preach even though twisted the truth by not focusing in Chirst (instead wasted precious opportunity to preach God's superabounding GRACE in Sweden) because God loves him as much as anyone of us! Paul was misunderstood & accused of preaching Radical Grace but he was Greatly Blessed, Highly Favored & Deeply Loved by God. It is NO dif

[unitedontherock]

@phinejohn

Yes, Gods grace is for everybody :-)

[eclecticderby]

do you know that in CHC, everything is performance based? A simple example: if you are a CGL, if the CG does not increase from a number of eg. 10 to 15 in a certain time frame, the CG is split up to join other CGs.

The CGL would be condemned, not openly, but it's a culture. I have been to a CG for fun b4 and the CGL was so stressed up over tithing he practically scolded the CG for being so stingy to God. on the other hand when they do achieve their goals they are pretty proud of themselves.

[unitedontherock]

@eclecticderby

Sad to hear that.

[unitedontherock]

From a swedish newspaper, Dagen:

"Kong Hee tar timeout - kyrkan misstänks för förskingring.

Församlingen lovar vidta nödvändiga åtgärder.

Kong Hee, ledare för den singaporianska megakyrkan City Harvest Church, tar timeout från församlingsledarskapet.

Orsak: Landets polis undersöker honom, hans fru. Den 45-årige Kong Hee är antagligen mest känd bland svenska kristna som återkommande talare på Europakonferensen, Livets ords stora årliga arrangemang".

[eclecticderby]

@AvalonJason

why not go and listen to pastor princes sermons for yourself, and see if he teaches good? as far as i am concern, pastor prince is the best grace preacher ever.

[cousinR4y]

For sure this guy doesn't know what JP is preaching about. I've been listening to JP for almost a year, his preaching opened my eyes and not long after that I received Jesus. And I never heard anything JP said those things in this video, i have a lot of his tapes.evrytime i heard him preaching, i feel refreshment from the Lord and I don't feel like to go out sinning. cheap grace? it ain't cheap baby and i somewhat understand, it takes Grace to see Grace, therefore ask for Grace. Bless y'all

[Coco762011]

Grace – unearned, undeserved, unmerited favour - comes with a hefty price at the cross for Jesus.

Any self-respecting minister of God must surely know that GRACE is the very heart of God embodied in Jesus Christ. “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the GIFT of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8-9)

[Coco762011]

In case he gets misquoted yet again, you can order his CD sermon dd 4 Dec 2011 which, coincidentally, is also based on Romans 5:20-21; 6:1.  His sermon ended with: “Therefore, I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong.” (2 Corinthians 12:10)

If u r wondering, no, I am not NCC staff member. I am a grace-believer who has not been issued with any licence to sin, unfortunately :=D [2 of 2]

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[joshua54321]

@eclecticderby i think it's a part of his joke. im sure i heard it from him. i just dont remember where and when on the tons of materials i've been blessed to hear from him. :)

[TheSkadic]

Don't be quick to judge, Prince's name was never mentioned in all parts. So lets us not point fingers directly to Kong and Prince just becos we heard something similar from them. The joke may come from Prince 1st hand to you. But who knows he may have borrowed the joke as well. The one's who are pointing the fingers are the ones who accept the teachings. They don't want to crucify their old man and let our new man be born. Stop using both pastors as shields to defend your ownself.

[eclecticderby]

@TheSkadic Olrite, cool. I understand where are you getting at, and I respect that.

[TheSkadic]

@eclecticderby I never said Kong was wrong. Even preachers of mega churches are humans. and humans make mistakes. and I already said previously, we need to filter let into our hearts what's right and what's wrong. If you think Kong is totally wrong, then I have no right to say what is right for you. The same goes for you, please respect my decision and conviction. I target and blame neither, I defend neither as well. Don't put words into my mouth. Thank you. Don't judge unless you are perfect.

[eclecticderby]

@TheSkadic Kong did target Prince, He even quoted the joke that prince uses. Go listen to part 1 please. He is targeting Prince. Why are you denying it? LOL. You know it deep insie, there is a conviction that Kong is in the wrong. Come on be bold enough to admit a fault, and move on.