اغفري لهم يا بيروت

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[nhraim]

why do you use pictures to show what you mean, please use words, have debates, communicate, express your concerns, write about your scare for this city, write it in obejectivity, in intersubjectivity, but don't use pictures, because pictures are showing us only one facet of the story. Peace for all.

[georgeskifai]

my friend,no need to talk, it's beirut and not afghanistan, it's an occupation,it's against lebanese people,many people left beirut because they lost their work , money...

[marmari]

ليش بعد فيها حيل بيروت لتغفر

[alikhoury]

the only thing i have to say about this point is in fact that the person that will judge as u implied might not be qualified to judge furthermore you are adding more subjectivity to the issue thus rendering it less objective which is exactly what we are trying to avoid.

[alikhoury]

i didnt quite get the argument in here u got the definition of overinterpretation as i meant it but i failed to follow the link between that and the argument u proposed if u could please elaborate more on this point.:)

[alikhoury]

well you were implying that we cannot limit ourselves to these pictures disregarding the actions that might have been responsible of the establishment of such reality. This is the causality theorie were you implied that we have to go back to the causes in order to be able to understand thus trying to justify these consequences by claiming that the causes of such destruction might be just or whichever term u find appropriate. This exactly were i cannot agree. No cause can justify such a thing.

[alikhoury]

what i was suggesting is how caan you or anyone interpret destruction as something good i.e not bad the horrific pictures where here judged as horrific and bad and this is y the reich was overthrown and this is exactly what i was saying. You cannot interpret the destruction seen in these images in any possible plausible optimistic form it cannot be seen, disregarding the context of it ,in any other way than bad

[nhraim]

About the influence an image of destruction can have on someone. Let me remind you of the horrific pictures of Berlin after the 2nd world war... I think it's a good thing they got rid of the Third Reich...

[nhraim]

Theory of the causal: Can you explain to me the rlationship between this theory and what I said?

[nhraim]

Reply to "on the other hnd": I usually encourage people to engage each other in debates, family debates, village debates, regional or national debates. These debates can be supplemented with physical evidence such as images. In this case misinterpretation is lesser because in a debate you can talk about facts (yes, which could be misinterpreted) but there will be a reply and someone will judge the accuracy of both side's point of views... no need to explain how this works.

[nhraim]

First of all, what is overinterpretation? if it is a biased-and-extended-form-of-th­e-analysis then what you say is totally wrong because the more the image you see is restricted (definite) the more it is subjected to biased interpretation. Remember, there is what you see and there is what you know, in this case what you see is lesser than what you are asked to know.

[alikhoury]

what u said doesnt go beyond what is considered to be (and not by me ) a failed attempt to disguise the mere reality using the causality theorie which i personly find unapplicable in this situation.:)