@Parker528 Swimming was also included in this. Shirley Babashoff, said she noticed the change, and was called a sore loser, because she said that she believed that there were swimmers using peformance enhancers in 1976. Babashoff new from first hand knowledge and had won silver medal after silver medal to drug enhanced swimmers from the GDR.
@idontsignin Yes, I taped that program. There are other elite GDR athletes who allege they were never; one good example is Kornelia Ender, the swimmer from Montreal in '76; only after documents came to the public from Stasi files and she was listed as one of those doped did she finally admit that for years, she was given injections without knowing what they were for. I guess it is possible Marita never received those testosterone shots, but she definitely was getting the oral turinabol pills.
@Parker528 i watched a programme call doping for gold on pbs which told you about the drugs taking in east germany, i think it might still be on their website, i actually feel sorry for the athletes who where taking the drugs cause they didnt have a clue what they where taking, most of the athletes where only kids when they where put on these things. but the thing is someone like marita koch denies ever being on these drugs, i dont think athletics has ever fully recovered from that time.
@idontsignin Well since the fall of GDR in 89, we now know that all track & field athletes were included in the state-wide, instituted steroid use, mainly Oral-Turinabol, a little blue tablets given by coaches, who told them the pills were vitamins, protein tablets, etc. And track & field was one of the sports the GDR govt decided would be p[art of the systematic doping. Marlies MUST have been included. Most athletes did not find out definitely until around '94.
I wonder what would happen if ashford and gohr was even in their anchor leg?
KeitaThe1 1 month ago
@Parker528 Swimming was also included in this. Shirley Babashoff, said she noticed the change, and was called a sore loser, because she said that she believed that there were swimmers using peformance enhancers in 1976. Babashoff new from first hand knowledge and had won silver medal after silver medal to drug enhanced swimmers from the GDR.
TheCopper05 5 months ago
@run3hours Gohr got the baton about 10m before Ashford did. I don't think it's fair to say she was faster.
CHEETAH69 10 months ago
@Parker528 The women were told what to take, and when to take it and not when to take it. They were told
it was vitamins. How sad for these women. Most have health issues, and their children also suffer from
many birth defects.
TheCopper05 1 year ago
Marlies Gohr is faster than Evelyn Ashford in this relay.
run3hours 1 year ago
@idontsignin Yes, I taped that program. There are other elite GDR athletes who allege they were never; one good example is Kornelia Ender, the swimmer from Montreal in '76; only after documents came to the public from Stasi files and she was listed as one of those doped did she finally admit that for years, she was given injections without knowing what they were for. I guess it is possible Marita never received those testosterone shots, but she definitely was getting the oral turinabol pills.
Parker528 1 year ago
@Parker528 i watched a programme call doping for gold on pbs which told you about the drugs taking in east germany, i think it might still be on their website, i actually feel sorry for the athletes who where taking the drugs cause they didnt have a clue what they where taking, most of the athletes where only kids when they where put on these things. but the thing is someone like marita koch denies ever being on these drugs, i dont think athletics has ever fully recovered from that time.
idontsignin 1 year ago
@idontsignin Well since the fall of GDR in 89, we now know that all track & field athletes were included in the state-wide, instituted steroid use, mainly Oral-Turinabol, a little blue tablets given by coaches, who told them the pills were vitamins, protein tablets, etc. And track & field was one of the sports the GDR govt decided would be p[art of the systematic doping. Marlies MUST have been included. Most athletes did not find out definitely until around '94.
Parker528 1 year ago
@Parker528 she had to be on something leading up to 1988
idontsignin 1 year ago
That East German anchor, possibly Goehr, just flys down the straightaway; it's incredible.
Parker528 1 year ago