This is a free preview of lesson 1 in Pedich Edhellen. Get the full version from http://tinyzoo.com/learn-elvish-ap/
Learn to speak Quenya Elvish just like the High Elves in Lord of the Rings. This is an immersion method of language learning, starting with useful phrases so you can speak Quenya the very first day!
@Arkxyz Yes I have an account there and participate in their forums, and have spoken to some of their moderators. Thanks for your interest.
tinyzoo 3 months ago
@tinyzoo Sorry, I made a mistake! I thought you were talking about pronunciation :) have you ever heard of councilofelrond[dot]com? There's a lot about elvish on that site, and if you want to learn some grammar there are lessons for both Quenya and Sindarin. The lessons are very easy to follow too!
Arkxyz 3 months ago
@Arkxyz I wasn't talking about understanding the grammar as a method of understanding pronunciation, I was referring specifically to the word placement in the video that I mentioned referencing Return of the King. Perhaps the thread of conversation was lost in this format. Please disregard. I don't have enough characters per message to try and explain in detail what was meant to be a casual comment.
tinyzoo 3 months ago
@tinyzoo The stress in Quenya is really easy to understand, you don't have to know the grammar to pronounce Quenya. In words with 2 syllables the stress always falls on the first syllable (Aldar, lAssi etc). The stress in words with more than 2 syllables falls on the second to last syllable only if that syllable contains a long vowel, a double consonant or a diphong (as in namàrie, edhellen, ùlAIri). In words like "aldaron" for example it falls on the third to last. That's all! :)
Arkxyz 3 months ago
Most of the phrases in my lessons are taken from established Elvish Language learning websites, not translated by myself. So any errors in grammar are copied from 3rd party sources, at least at this point in time.
tinyzoo 3 months ago
@Arkxyz Yes, I know that is a video from the movie, not from J.R.R. Tolkien. I don't know where a recording of him saying the phrases Gen Hannon or Le Hannon would be. In the movie he says Hannon Le with the Le at the end instead of the beginning. I wish I understood the grammar better. *sigh*
tinyzoo 3 months ago
@Arkxyz I can hear a very subtle difference in this youtube video, I think I know what you're talking about. w4fYBTa6b54
tinyzoo 3 months ago
@tinyzoo Ahahahah yeah I read in the LotR appendix that elves - and Tolkien himself I guess - considered the "french r" distasteful... and even if pronouncing the trilled r is challenging (my mother tongue uses trilled r's and yet I had problems as a child to produce that sound...) I cannot help but agree with him. He created a language that really flows off the tongue.
Arkxyz 3 months ago
@Arkxyz The most remarkable thing about the recordings I have listened to from J.R.R. Tolkien is how he trills EVERYTHING! He really loves to trill his r's, and even trills his d's sometimes. After listening to the poem Namarie especially, I got the idea that if it can be trilled it should be trilled. LOL Maybe not quite that bad, but almost seems like it.
tinyzoo 3 months ago
@Arkxyz Some words have an accented syllable on the last syllable. I will take your suggestion into consideration however. Thanks for the feedback.
tinyzoo 3 months ago